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Key Suggestion take 2: Economic Boogaloo! Now with even more links for buyers at 7.11 and 7.22 ref.


Well, time to face the ordeal that is a new key suggestion, here’s hoping it goes well enough, even if it isn’t successful.


7 ref buyers (not really necessary as they are not in the current or new range, but they exist):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18202686 - Has plenty of metal, and 8 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18201707 - plenty of metal, no keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18464082 - no buyers for 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18438326 - no buyers for 6 days


7.11 ref buyers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18402702 - plenty of keys bought

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18485504 - plenty of metal, only 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18465081 - plenty of keys bought

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18406369 - plenty of keys bought

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18286488 - plenty of keys bought

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17121845 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554439

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520191

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555376

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18508568

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18151486

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18404734

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18508923

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18007983 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18068520

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17199581

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18235169

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18389105

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18204875

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18522661

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18501958

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17515771

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18529911

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18486604

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18441101

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18413043

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16182706 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18537471

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17744658

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18326022

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17964939

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18498405

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18328341

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555850

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16477622

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18431214

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554506

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18438549

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18536322

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16464598

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17543202

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18408373

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17828864

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18547101

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18392520

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15153939

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18478734

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18437470

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18464629

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18437983

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18545028

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18351059

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555174

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18276001

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18149100

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555191

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17138363

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493469

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18552283

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18418479

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18409401

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17877503

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17707308

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18405334

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18350717

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18543958

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18553738

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18532174

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18551652

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18404281

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18389127

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18524848

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18518864

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18001213

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18538156

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16369833 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520191

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18050458

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18392004

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555903

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18548975

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18147741

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18490619

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554439

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15323287

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17984419

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17842266

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554293

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18540029

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18463841

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18285732

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18556337

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18542737

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18381194

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18237760

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554630

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18505234

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18547983

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18532585

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18245813

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17858819


7.22 ref buyers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15754901 - bot, tons of metal, not so many keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16307577 - bot, plenty of metal, no keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18370040

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18116437

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13599180 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14901748

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18060807

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18443779

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18035693

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16361346 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18377145

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18539859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17310050 -bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17768617

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14146124

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18267370 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18519294

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18467812

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16361331 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18539107

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410583 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18301463

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18527893 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17186351

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18540497

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17949017

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18406281

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18438322

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17768617

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18523983

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554742

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18539107

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18526769

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555859 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18491369

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17265767

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18536760

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18344558

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18108988

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18475216 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18547473

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18396172

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18425002

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18035693 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18526769

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18524781

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18491576

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18544245

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17225140 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18543071

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18543714

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18465476

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13678223 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18546052

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18534392

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18085057

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18517593 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12024968

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18409579

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18403218

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15715501 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18393685

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18438322

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18512201

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15670417 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18539859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493911

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520509

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18440841

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18416333

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16307576 - bot

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18277019

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18459749

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18435609

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16361350

http://scrap.tf/keys - Buying at 7.22 ref


7.33 ref buyers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18541513

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17614088

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18409384

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18550819

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11851330

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17941068


Successful Sellers:


7.11 ref sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13990056 -bot out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18555979 - sold in 4 minutes


7.22 ref sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8799185 - several recent comments wanting to buy keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18063412

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17558236 - out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18423908

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10806553 - out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18027519 - out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18376769 - sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17898904

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18376571


7.33 ref sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16877887

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17652448

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18552972

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18334922

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18491437

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18148893

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17825401

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18067718 - several adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6962413 - several add messages


7.44 ref sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17612543

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17704339

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18070069

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17829799

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18151435 - denied offer of 7.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18472644


Classifieds:

http://imgur.com/Sy3tL5z


As the above proof shows, most successful buyers in the market are buying at either 7.11-7.22 ref, however the selling market seems to go for a little higher, but that is understandable with so many buyers at 7.11 and 7.22, the only way to not be instantly bought out is to go 7.33 or higher. I’ll put the range at 7.11-7.22, as I do not have sufficient proof from the sellers to make it anything else though. As it has been a week since the last accepted price change, this relatively small bump should be valid, but correct me if I am wrong.


And that comes to the end of my first non-unusual suggestion! I grabbed all the proof myself, so if there is any overlap with previous suggestions or duplicate links, feel free to notify me and I will try to remove them for the first hour. I will also strive to add more proof as time goes on, but I am going to avoid commenting unless necessary. Any and all proof that suggests keeping the price the same or changing it will be greatly appreciated, but try to keep it clean in there. Thanks for taking the time to read this suggestion, and happy trading!

    Good to see you trying again man, this time you have closer to the right amount of links needed. I still think that 7.33 is possible but as long as bots are selling at that price i think this bump is conservative but correct.

      *sigh* Upvotes

      Unfortunately, this looks good. I'll also add that the lucky.tf bot buys keys for 7.33 (although it rarely has enough scrap to actually buy).

        the amount of bots is too damn high,upvote

        its hard to find a key under 7.22 i sold 5 to bots for 7.22

            Surely the ads @ 7.22/7.33 are people wanting to make a profit? By increasing the price to match the seller's asking price, they will add another scrap profit on the short fall, and the price will therefore keep going up as the suggestions rise to match their prices.

              yup, that's how its gotten to the price it is, yet unfortunately it's how it seems to work. Enough people want to charge more the prices change to suit that.

                The vicious cycle of key prices seems inevitable.

                Words of wisdom Cy4taledd ^

                Second Link for "buyers at 7.33" is wrong. It buys at 7.22

                Same with the third.

                Fourth was only buying one, fyi.

                Fifth link is ALSO wrong, it buys at 7.22

                Last link too. It buys at 7.11, sells at 7.33


                Nice proof, no srsly.

                  Thanks for pointing that out, guess they changed their prices after a large influx of people came after seeing me list them here. I'll remove those links, they were not part of the range anyway.


                  *edit: Seems I can't edit them out, just disregard those links' existence.

                  What I fail to understand is that keys in the community market are only going for cheaper and cheaper, ATM they are 1.50 euros(roughly 2.1 usd) while their price in metal is forever increasing.

                  While I wrote this, the price dropped by another cent(euro) to 1.49

                  This does not make any sense!!! the metal price should be going skydiving right about now!!!

                    at the same time metal price has been going lower making the balance of things even as in metal is cheaper so base currency is easier to buy making keys less expensive.

                      Why do people think that raising a key half a scrap in a week is ruining the economy when it's obviously possible and proven?

                        It creates a non-linear big ball of timey wimey....stuff

                          I totally agree with you I think it is stupid where the market has been going this website is a GUIDE not a strict rule book, people will always buy LOW and sell HIGH that is a sign of a healthy economy not a sign that prices need to be raised.

                          It seems as if this price is now slightly incorrect. At this time (10:06 CST) on March 27, classifieds are full of 7.44+ sellers, and no less. Bots are buying from 7.22-7.33 and selling at the range 7.44-7.55. I recently put up some 7.33 trades on Outpost and got a bunch of adds within a few seconds.

                            FIVE DAYS LATER:

                            It's 5 days later now, and though I've upvoted this request, I already noticed a shift once again in price:

                            - 7-7.22 are sold instantly, either by bots or by quick adding within 30 sec. This is quickselling price without any doubt.

                            - 7.33 are sold within 5 minutes (had this both from personal experience and heard it from a lot of others as well)

                            - 7.44-7.55 is the prices bots sell them for now (and also some other people that see the price has changed again).


                            Though I don't like it, keys are rising rapidly.. I remember the days keys were 4 ref, and before my time they were even a lot lower than that from what I've heard.

                            I never made a price-suggestion yet, but personally I think the price should be set to 7.33-7.55 if I look at the market. (Perhaps 7.11-7.55, where 7-7.22 is quickselling price, though I think that range is a bit too big for keys.)


                            PS: Though 7.33-7.55 are the normal prices they go for right now, I prefer if they remain at 7.11-7.22 like suggested here 5 days ago, since then people are less tempted to try and sell them for more..

                              I begrudgingly would have to agree with you. This suggestion, and potentially the other one as well, are both no longer indicative of the market. I won't make another suggestion myself, but I wish anyone the best of luck if they make one.


                              I am not liking this sudden surge of keys in value of the market, if I am honest, but it seems the hype is there and there is no stopping it now; I can only hope it is somewhat restrained in its rise in its suggested value.

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                              *pulls out pipe* where the smoke goes I vote, up.


                              Bots manipulate this economy though..

                                  He has linked many buyers for 7.22 ref, meaning you can already easily sell for 7.22 ref. And already people are buying for 7.33 so your logic doesnt work.

                                  Weird. The price was really stable for almost a solid month, then it just began the rise again... is there a reason for this?

                                  On the suggestion, looks like you have enough buyers to add 7.22 to the range, I will vote up.

                                    As much as I hate keys going up, you have my up vote -_-

                                      All i see is 1 7.22 seller on classifieds and rest of listing is 7.33

                                      Also quite few key bots already give 7.22 refined per key, so why would anyone sell below 7.22 refined anyway.

                                        I got a key yesterday for 7 ref, i got extremely lucky, Don't make me go to history and screen shot, otherwise i may as well put in all my scrap.tf bought keys, and it will take forever xD But this bump is good :)

                                          I've seen mass buyers at 7.33, so the current price is definitely too low. Upvote

                                              Upvote. Amazing proof and WOW there are so many bots.

                                              Also.. I added a bot that buys keys for 7.22. http://steamcommunity.com/id/gunner/

                                                Key bots and russian phishers.

                                                OT: With all those 7.22 buyers I'm afraid I'll have to upvote.

                                                Upvote

                                                I sold a key for 7.11 ref and then rebought for 7.44 ref, idk what am I'm doing with my life..

                                                    personal opinion- they sell very fast for 7.22 and with all of the 7.22 buyers (ive been buying for 7.33) thats 7.22 should be the range. its probably too earily for 7.33 though

                                                        Tired of Keys going up but you provided the evidence; Up-Vote from me.

                                                          Was gonna do this later today - proof is pretty solid. To confirm this and keep it updated you should and some more new buyer threads if possible, just to verify that people are currently buying for your suggested range.


                                                          Got my vote.

                                                            :insert Anakin: Now THIS is key suggesting! Upvote.

                                                                All the proofs are from TF2Outpost.......


                                                                Here's Buyer links from Bazaar.(There's loads of buying at 7 ref,but 7.11 ref is already ignored so i wont bother about the 7 ref ones.Idk if i should inclue the _Buy now_ links for 7.11,i dont have any ways to check if they get traded or not.)


                                                                Buying at 7.11,no one interested.


                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726467 19 hours ago,still no reply.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723955 2 Days,no reply.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/721080 5 days ago. No reply

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/716911 From 1 week,Also buying Dota keys.Also no reply.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/720977 5 Days ago too.No reply too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727677 1 hour ago. But looking at state of others?...

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/714660 1 week ago,no replies too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723955 2 days ago. Noooo reeepliiiiiiies.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726467 19 hours ago,no replies

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/631079 Old trade,last reply for 7.11 was 1 week ago.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/457536 Old Trade,new reply=....loong time already

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/634682 OldTradetoo.CommentsThereFor7.22=Funny

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/724772 2 Days ago,6 views & no replies?Yeah...

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/637891 2 months old but only 48 views,no replies too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727478 3 hours ago,2 views. Blatant reselling to 7.33 too

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/720977 5 days ago,5 views,no replies,need i say more?

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727264 8 hours,2 views,buying for 7.16.No replies too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727484 4 hours ago,3 views,no replies.Take a guess.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723772 3 days ago,4 views,no replies.What to say...

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/716433 7h-ago.3views,[email protected] say

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/716433 1week ago,4 views,no replies,yeah,im drained.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/706725 2 weeks ago,2 views,1 is probably from me,LOL.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723244 3 days ago,3 views,HL 3Conf-,nvm,doing it wrong

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/709431 1 week ago,41 views,latest reply=1 week ago too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/691308 1 week ago,194 views,1 reply.blatant resell to 7.44

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727117 11 hours ago,5 views,no replies.Doesnt resell.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/710984 1weekago,8 views,no replies.I agree,HL3 Confirmed!

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/703793 2weeks ago,16 views,no replies.Nothing witty here.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/691075 3 weeks ago,39 views,no replies. Im tired... .__.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/725998 1 day ago,36 views,no replies. Thunder name,riiight.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/719469 6 days ago,6 views,no replies. Nice name,Vortex.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/698149 3weeksago,4Views,noreplies.Commander is ignored.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/715305 1 week ago,7 views,no replies..WT*s your name LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/722150 4 days ago,4 views,no replies.Capsed are Capsed.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/302718 Old Trade,but latest reply was 1 month ago.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723489 3 days ago,1 view.Poor bastard...LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/621704 Old Trade,latest reply was for 2 keys,1 week ago.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/691269 3w ago,19 views,1 reply that was 2w ago to trade.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/525390 4months,8views.NoReplies.Must suck to be him/her..

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/719408 6 days ago,11 views,no replies..

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/722813 3 days ago,im the first view O_O LOL.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/713854 1 week ago,11 views,no replies.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/719929 6 days ago,im the first view,no replies,duh...


                                                                Succesfull sellers for 7.11.(WOW,some still exist o.o)

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/622354 someone added 21 hours ago.

                                                                He's a nice guy anyway.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/699188 2 weeks ago,someone bought 3 days ago O_O

                                                                No fair,he got one because of Bacon in his name LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/639538 Old trade,but someone replied 5 days ago. Cant trade for 7 days but already -sealed the deal-,could be cancelled though.


                                                                Buying at 7.22

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/705900 Is a bot though.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/713071 Posted 1 week ago. NO REPLIES O_O

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/705874 2 weeks ago.No replies too,but its a bot anyway.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/709963 1 Week ago.No reply too,maybe only Tra-offers?

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726684 16 hours ago.Link-spam though.Buy-now too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/700342 2 weeks ago.Blatant resell for 7.44,riiight.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/725272 1 Day Ago. Its anotehr Buy-Now though.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727500 3 Hours ago,aaand another Buy Now.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726704 2 days ago,yet another Buy Now.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/713071 1 week ago. No replies..Not Buy now for this one.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726816 Buy Now.Again.and again.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/713071 Trade for 7.22_Quick sell_,suuuure.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726009 Another 7.22 that isnt Buy Now. At least they talk.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/722501 4 Days ago,26 views. No replies,idk o.o

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/722435 4 days ago too,someone added 1 day ago to sell.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/444029 OldTrade.Latest= 3weeksago.Resell=7.55..LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/727044 O_O 12 hours ago,only 3 views?No replies,duh..LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/724685 ...2 days ago,2 views only,no replies...i sense doom.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/689750 3Weeks ago,46views,oh hi,a bot! :D

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/726826 14 hours ago,4 views,no replies too.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/717521 Yay,another bot :D

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/707902 2 weeks ago,1 reply,9 views. Reply=added to sell.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/703890 2weeksago16Views1Rply.Reply says _7.33_...LOL

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/722928 3 days ago,2 views,no replies...seriously?

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/723628 3d ago,15 views,no repli- OHH,HI BOT :D

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/635711 old trade,but,latest reply was 1 week ago.

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/239656 Old trade,no repleis,probably edited to be 7.22.


                                                                Buyers at 7.33 Ref

                                                                http://bazaar.tf/trade/693170 Its a buy now,but it still counts.


                                                                Hope its enough. I really noticed how TF2outpost is the only -place-,making it abit too closed. At least here,it also has bazaar.tf links too. That way,moar proof.


                                                                Downvoate -__-

                                                                Upvote,as much as it puffs & stings me to do so...


                                                                BTW hi o.o, the legendary Backpack.tf.... LOL

                                                                Yes,its my first post. I dont have much stuffs since i have to load up Steam Wallet first. But ,yeah,ill go into serious-level trading soon too.

                                                                before a key becomes 30 ref each


                                                                edit: I'd go on a trivia about what Bazaar means and how nice it would be to buy food from a real one,but i should rest instead,LOL.

                                                                  Thanks very much for the extra proof, your help is greatly appreciated!

                                                                    Glad i could :D


                                                                    Hmm,does this coutn as -not useful-? .__.


                                                                    10-ref Keys here we come QQ

                                                                        Um Lol? You copied this exactly - http://backpack.tf/vote/id/532531a84dd7b8a3418b456a


                                                                        Downvote.

                                                                          They posted that first, then the other guy copied it into proof for the other suggestion, the times were about half a day off, so it shows the same date, at least for now.

                                                                        So, I was in need of a few ref, and I listed my key for 7.22, here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18585604


                                                                        I got 3 adds in about 30 seconds. I'd say that this bump is even a bit conservative. Upvote, although I'd much rather the price stay at the incorrect price of 7.11, if only because it keeps the market stable.

                                                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18587349

                                                                          I just instasold 2 for 7.33

                                                                            Those are still in your inventory.... you're trying to manipulate proof -.-

                                                                                Although this will be a never-ending cycle, the only thing key inflation will do is make it a slightly bigger pain to get refs and items into keys. The proof seems valid though, so it has my upvote.

                                                                                          I still haven't had the least bit of trouble buying keys at 7 ref. I've even bought a few lower. But that's all on trade servers and I also see people buying keys for 7.22... Idk...

                                                                                                    While my trade post was not listed http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18483488 it has been up for 6 days and while no one has posted on it, I have gotten 4 people who sold a total of 6 keys to me in the last 3 days. As this is my only source of trading, it is the only place they found my offer of 7 refined. With over 100 trades in the last few days, I will only provide proof of these 6 sales if requested, seeing as 6 keys isnt going to make or break the voting on this matter. Just trying to show though that with some PATIENCE, you can still find keys at 7 refined.


                                                                                                    Edit, here is proof of 4 keys bought in the last 24 hours. http://i.imgur.com/kXYJb4B.png

                                                                                                      What's the point of suggesting higher prices? Sellers will keep asking for 0.11-0.22 more than the backpack.tf price anyways... Upvote :3

                                                                                                        The amount of right you are...

                                                                                                          Yet all these wrongs don't make a right. Still, much proof. Many links. Upvote.

                                                                                                        uncrating loot.....


                                                                                                        you uncrated: a upvote

                                                                                                          I would like to point out that no matter how many keys I sell to bots.tf for 7.22, the key count always ends up going to 0 at some point when bots.tf was selling for 7.33 and selling for 7.44.

                                                                                                            Trying to stay on topic but just gonna point out:

                                                                                                            As of this message there are two key price suggestions out, meaning that the overall proof is far greater for both and because there are TWO suggestions for the key price, the chances of acceptance of either suggestion going through has literally doubled.


                                                                                                            Just wanted to put that out there.

                                                                                                              Easy upvote, way too many buyers at 7.22. Should raise to 7.22-7.33 in the next few days/weeks, 7.33 is totally possible, bit to early to include that in the range yet.

                                                                                                                  I don't like all this inflation at all. The proof is in the links though. I just hope things smooth out before some sort of crash happens.

                                                                                                                          I've sold 5 keys and counting for 7.33

                                                                                                                            only 5??? wow if u will sell to 7 u will can sell more.

                                                                                                                                Before I go through your rules, can you tell me what was wrong with my comment and It would be nice if you just don't delete this too. I just don't understand.

                                                                                                                                  Miyamoto: Please try to understand. We're doing what we can.

                                                                                                                                    To add on to my further comment about bots, back when keys were 7 ref apiece, scrap.tf had maybe like 170 keys at any given time. Now, they consistently have less than 10.


                                                                                                                                    I have also been paying attention to what's been happening on Outpost lately and I've seen quite a few 7.22 sells being instasales.

                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520935


                                                                                                                                      brought over 100+ keys, no big deal. upchuck

                                                                                                                                        This link is wrong. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13990056 -bot out of stock they buy for 7.11 and sell for 7.22. Just thought i would let you know.

                                                                                                                                            so many links

                                                                                                                                              guys , don't cry if keys go up. Its the way life work like when car fuel goes up and when rice goes up. Upvoted for good proof.

                                                                                                                                                  just bumped my trade buying for 7.11

                                                                                                                                                  instantly bought 2

                                                                                                                                                  7.11 should be in teh range upboatz

                                                                                                                                                      it takes the under dog to get the range right

                                                                                                                                                          So many 7.33 buyers now.


                                                                                                                                                          Put one up for 7.33. 5 adds in a minute.

                                                                                                                                                          Upvoate

                                                                                                                                                            The butthurt on here is delicious.


                                                                                                                                                            This gets a downvote from me simply because I agree with the other suggestion. 7.11 is pretty much a quicksell at this point. It should be sliced from the range.

                                                                                                                                                                    damn why does there have to be two ;-; I don't want to have to pick


                                                                                                                                                                    I'm going with vince's, feeling like finding a 7.33 buyer is becoming easier and easier...

                                                                                                                                                                      The proof provided shows 7.11 happens often enough that it should be in the range. The 7.22 flat suggestion doesn't show convincingly enough sales at 7.33 to balance out the trades happening at 7.11. Both the suggester and community have had 5 days to provide supplemental proof to convince us (the mods and the rest of the community) that 7.22 flat is better, but they have not done so.


                                                                                                                                                                      Going with the suggestion that has proof to support the range AND the community vote.


                                                                                                                                                                      As always, key cooldown rules are still in effect. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2620-key-cooldown-guidelines-read-before-making-key-suggestions/


                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks.