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You know 2 ref is still manageable. Only four pages on outpost.

Proof: All proof is 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11432935 check his backpack, he has 4 tickets and only has 6 of his ref left

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9015055 many adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10321968 many adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9385878 atleast one add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11662915 has one ticket in his backpack, only has 6 of his ref in backpack

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11624566 1 add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11205947got ten tickets in backpack

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11668492 a couple of adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11420130 1 add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11112437 2 adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10722537 3 adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11573488 1 add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11518850 2 adds "bought 24"

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11364730 afew unclear adds and i couldn't look at his backpack, my steam was sorta down (made not be valid)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11024712 atleast one add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10299676 many adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11519641 "bought 22" again I can't look at his bp

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11128017 2 adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9265119 buying 4 for 8 ref, many adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11143585 "bought 8" i wish my steam would get backup again

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11596763 1 add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10390469 3 adds (I'll count one since then other 2 were from weeks ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11139396 1 add

    Those are all quickbuyers.

    MY NOTES IN CAPS


    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9015055 many adds - ONLY ONE ADD IN LAST WEEK THAT WASNT SPECIFIED, NO PROOF IT WAS FOR TOD TICKET

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10321968 many adds - 2 ADDS IN LAST WEEK, ONE SEEMED TO HAVE CLOSED THE TRADE BEFORE ACCEPTED (ALSO NO TOD IN BACKPACK)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9385878 atleast one add (TOD ADD WAS 5 DAYS AGO)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11662915 has one ticket in his backpack, only has 6 of his ref in backpack (PLAUSABLE PROOF, BUT NO EVIDENCE ON THE TRADE)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11624566 1 add (GOOD PROOF, BUT 2 DAYS AGO)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11205947got ten tickets in backpack (MAY HAVE 10 TICKETS BUT NO ADDS ON TRADE. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM OR HOW OLD THEY ARE)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11668492 a couple of adds (THIS SEEMS LIKE GOOD PROOF)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11420130 1 add (4 DAYS OLD AND ADD SEEMS FISHY)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11112437 2 adds (2 DAYS OLD, AND 4 DAYS OLD)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10722537 3 adds (NONE OF THESE ADDS WERE THIS WEEK)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11573488 1 add (GOOD PROOF BUT 2 DAYS OLD)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11518850 2 adds "bought 24" (GOOD PROOF FOR 1 TRADE)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11364730 afew unclear adds and i couldn't look at his backpack, my steam was sorta down (made not be valid) (ADDS HERE ARE NOT FOR TOD TICKET. NO TICKETS IN BP)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11024712 atleast one add (SEEMS LEGIT)

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10299676 many adds (NO ADDS THIS WEEK)


    Ok im bored now so Ill stop here, but your proof seems old and not very well thought out. Its not enough to copy and paste links hoping we wont look.

      OBJECTION


      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9015055 many adds - ONLY ONE ADD IN LAST WEEK THAT WASNT SPECIFIED, NO PROOF IT WAS FOR TOD TICKET - i'll give you this one

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10321968 many adds - 2 ADDS IN LAST WEEK, ONE SEEMED TO HAVE CLOSED THE TRADE BEFORE ACCEPTED (ALSO NO TOD IN BACKPACK) - does it matter?, both traders added the buyer agreeing to his price

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9385878 atleast one add (TOD ADD WAS 5 DAYS AGO) - your point? the price was changed a week ago, more than 5 days ago

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11662915 has one ticket in his backpack, only has 6 of his ref in backpack (PLAUSABLE PROOF, BUT NO EVIDENCE ON THE TRADE) - i fully acknowledge there's no evidence of trade, just putting it there as something extra

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11624566 1 add (GOOD PROOF, BUT 2 DAYS AGO) - since when is 2 days long?

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11205947got ten tickets in backpack (MAY HAVE 10 TICKETS BUT NO ADDS ON TRADE. YOU DONT KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM OR HOW OLD THEY ARE) - again i acknowledge that

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11668492 a couple of adds (THIS SEEMS LIKE GOOD PROOF) - thank you

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11420130 1 add (4 DAYS OLD AND ADD SEEMS FISHY) - four days old isn't that old

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11112437 2 adds (2 DAYS OLD, AND 4 DAYS OLD) - they're not that old

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10722537 3 adds (NONE OF THESE ADDS WERE THIS WEEK) - when i got it the last add said it was a week old :/

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11573488 1 add (GOOD PROOF BUT 2 DAYS OLD) - 2 DAYS IS NO OLD GOD DAMN IT

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11518850 2 adds "bought 24" (GOOD PROOF FOR 1 TRADE) - ok

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11364730 afew unclear adds and i couldn't look at his backpack, my steam was sorta down (made not be valid) (ADDS HERE ARE NOT FOR TOD TICKET. NO TICKETS IN BP) - it's been a week, if they were for the tod than he could have sold it already, besides that's why i put "may not be valid besides it"

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11024712 atleast one add (SEEMS LEGIT) - sounds like sarcasm

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10299676 many adds (NO ADDS THIS WEEK) - there are 2 adds a week old

      Lawyer mode off, if you want to respond to this than please don't write in caps

        Sorry, I didn't mean to sound sarcastic when I said seems legit, it actually was a good proof.


        I think that in the last week 10-15 trades does not constitute a price. I accept that you disagree though.

        My suggestion was accpeted a week ago, which means anything after 1 week old invalid due to the fact the price 1 week ago was actually 2-2.33

        So basically, your legitimate evidence comes down to this


        First link; out no one knows what he bought them for he may have 4 tickets, but how do you know he didn't just buy them @ 2.33 because he is a avid MvM player?

        Second link; out as well there is only 3 comments that say added in the last week, and two of them are for backpack expanders, that is also a quicksale trade.

        Third link; 2 comments that say added in the past week, 1 of which was hidden by the user... the other is 3 days old...

        Fourth link; 1 legitamite add 5 days ago

        Fifth link; out no one knows what he bought them for he may have a ticket, but how do you know he didn't just buy them @ 2.33

        Sixth link; Only 1 add

        Seventh link; out no one knows what he bought them for he may have 10 tickets, but how do you know he didn't just buy them @ 2.33 from a seller

        Eighth link; 2 "adds" only 1 was confirmed with the check thing

        Ninth link; Unclear if trade actually happended

        Tenth link; 2 adds

        Eleventh link; 3 adds none of which were this week

        Twevlth link; 1 add

        Thirtenth link; 2 adds yet "bought 24" can never be reliable because his buying price might change and fluctuate

        Fourteenth link; None of which specify they are selling tickets, and the only possible one is 3 days old and unconfirmed

        Fifteenth link; 1 add

        Sixteenth link; No adds in last week

        Seventeenth link; Same user as 13th link so can't post the same users trade twice and that trade says "bought 22"???

        Eighteenth link; No adds in last week

        Nineteenth link; No adds posted there in a month...

        Twentith link; 2 weeks old only 1 add not even for a ticket

        Twentifirst link; 1 add

        Twentisecond link; no adds in last week

        Twentithird link; Last add was a week ago = invalid


        I really destroyed the spelling on that but whatever

        Hopefully people will actually click the links before they vote/post based on your incorrect "add" statements.

          You know, not everyone uses backpack.tf so just because your suggestion was accepted last week, doesn't automatically make any adds the day afterwards invalid. Also if you're going to try to disprove my proof than do what Jon Snow did up there since the way you did was way too hard to follow.

        You get a nice upvote friend. It never needed to be pushed from 2. ref anyway.

            Any sellers for 2 ref? That proof is only of quickbuyers, which can be used as supporting proof but not the only proof.

              sellers on outpost never sell for the lower end of the range :/

                Um... Yes they do.


                "Provide proof from both sellers and buyers. Neither defines the market by themselves."

                "Quickbuyers buy to resell; they are rarely good evidence for a price decrease (though an abundance at the current value can show a price should be higher)"


                You listed 23 quickbuyers willing to pay 2 ref. I am pretty sure that is an "abundance" of buyers.

                2 ref is a quicksell price if you can't find a single seller on outpost for that amount.


                Source:

                http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version/

                  where on there states that if there's no sellers for that price it is a quicksell price, even when through it's a mere scrap lower than the suggested price. If that was the way quicksells were classified than the lower range of way too many items would be considered quicksell.

                    imo the usual quicksell/quickbuy rules should've never been applied to highly traded items like keys and ToDs since they're bound to sell quickly regardless (unless they're priced >25% what everyone else is selling for) so it's hard to define what is a 'quicksell'.

                      That is the way most people on this site classify quicksell prices as.

                      This is a big market, so if you can't even find one individual seller trade at 2 ref, I see no reason to change the range. There is a reason why quickbuyers aren't counted as real proof, so you basically have no valid proof at all.

                      I am simply saying that there are many buyers for this item and looking at the 1st page on Outpost, I found SIX buyers at 2.11 ref. It isn't necessary to include 2 ref in the range.

                    This should help you define quickbuyers, katanabluejay. Most of your proof matches the exact traits listed there.

                    unfortunately i have to downvote this since although occasionally trades still happen at 2 ref for people who haven't caught up with the market, most buyers are more than willing to pay 2.11 for a ticket.