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Buyers:
15
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22772647
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24860375
14.88
http://i.imgur.com/xG9dNy0.png
http://i.imgur.com/esBJFWp.png (x62)
http://i.imgur.com/28WwAGT.png
http://i.imgur.com/6Hspue6.png (x12)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862161
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24195763
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24764247
14.77
http://i.imgur.com/Uq5bw0U.png (x12)
http://i.imgur.com/N4CXvKg.png
http://i.imgur.com/Mmg2eT5.png (x3)
http://i.imgur.com/2SxspSr.png (x17)
http://i.imgur.com/oHxirw0.png (x5)
http://i.imgur.com/8NUGcxX.png (x2)
http://i.imgur.com/EhZgkmU.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24255488
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24305218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24847335
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24553868
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24423454
14.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23891348
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862223
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24856156
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24471332
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24449312
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23613227
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24760415
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24861665
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24854431
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24072881
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23987074
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24860814
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24848648
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24846308
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24841619
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23249807
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24861754
14.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24387421
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24636087
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24370123
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24748894
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24799270
Sellers:
14.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24857518
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24857031
15
http://i.imgur.com/Hl0PVFI.png (x2)
http://i.imgur.com/h3lakIP.png (x17)
http://i.imgur.com/UjP6TNU.png (x4)
http://i.imgur.com/PG6Ni9j.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21618505
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24255488
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24860243
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862223
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24851386
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24393956
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24471332
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24742903
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24830460
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24856815
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24840575
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24856158
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24432493
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24783831
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24471894
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24793686
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24848544
15.11
http://i.imgur.com/4wHE5Gv.png (x29)
http://i.imgur.com/YDtEedN.png (x10)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24850743
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24603024
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24768703
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24854759
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23229585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24844765
15.22+
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24743134
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24700013
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24323033
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23988919
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24236124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24449312
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24800175
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24852597
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24855407
Sold: (mainly updating with my own trades, since I purchase keys for 14.66 and below)
http://i.imgur.com/CWrPQ3y.png (14.05)
http://i.imgur.com/ijAZmIa.png (14.33)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862927 (14.55) x8
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862723 (14.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24830267 (14.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862915 (14.88)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862847 (15)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24862550 (15)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24851386 (15) x4
(Stolen from previous price suggestion (credits to Doc Scratch))
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24809147 - 14 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24808064 - 14 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24800278 - 14 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24809163 - 14.11 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24809154 - 14.11 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24803324 - 14.33 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24655968 - 14.33 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24800035 - 14.44 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21618505 - 14.55 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24804139 - 14.55 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24751060 - 14.66 Ref (63 Sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24693233 - 14.66 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24784701 - 14.66 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24777809 - 14.66 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24503324 - 14.66 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941 - 14.66 Ref (38 Sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24553868 - 14.77 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24603024 - 14.88 Ref (2 Sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24795417 - 15 Ref (3 Sold)
Any keys for sale under 14.77 sell instantly. I've watched backpack.tf and tf2outpost.com like a hawk for the past two days purchasing keys for 14.66 and under. I myself have sold multiple keys for 15 ref and dozens for 14.88 to bots. As much as it sucks for the economy, the price of keys is going up.
Decent amount of proof from just a quick glance over the links. I probably would suggest keeping update with this thread with more links.
You should really try and find sales. Buyers are great, but for a currency you should primarily look for sales
I've been trying to find a way to find closed trades on outpost, problem is a lot of the sales are from bots.
You can use bots as supportive evidence, but not the main evidence.
Upvoted, lots of good proof!
upvote good proof
Some people are buying at 15ref. more you wait, more they are.
Good proof. Upboat.
Buying keys at current 14-14.33 would a fricking miracle
and good proof tho
Upvote *wink*
As much as I'd like to down vote because of how pricey keys are getting, it's decent proof and good job
Please keep comments to those assessing the proof provided or providing evidence supporting or refuting the suggested range. Please avoid posting a simple "upvote" or "downvote." Just vote on the suggestion instead. For all comments pertaining to the state of the economy at large, I would like to direct you to our forums. Suggestions are not the place for those sorts of discussions. Spam only makes it harder to find relevant posts.
I Downvoted. Your post. Since you're not a mod, it is not your thing to concern.
Also, pretty much nobody cares, to be honest. Welcome to Bp.tf .
Just sold one in the classifieds for 15 ref, upvote.
Upvote!!!!!!!
Some bots are buying at 14.88 and I am selling at 15 myself. At 14.77 and 14.88 I have lots sold at. Just a few sold at 15 so far. I like the range you suggested and it is accurate for the market currently. (14.66 is instant sell though)
what bots are these? they sound very reasonable. However downvote because there are hardly any sales, you know only the most important evidence
The prices aren't rising because of this suggestion. This suggestion is here because the prices are rising. People are buying and selling over bp.tf value, therefore this value should rise to be accurate.
I'm not saying this specific suggestion is the cause of the keys rising, I'm saying the prices go around .66 over bp value, the prices don't rise higher than that until someone suggests the keys should go up, then they go .66 or so over that value. I'm someone who actually has some keys, so I'm not just some guy with 2 refined and mad because I can't afford a key. I'm not trying to be a butthurt and I'm not saying you are either, I'll stop replying after this comment.
I think bp.tf should reflect the actual prices things go for, since that's kinda the whole point of it.
Keys don't rise because people keep selling for more, people sell other items for more then there normal traded value all the time and those items don't skyrocket, keys just dropped from 17->13 refined, you can't explain that by just saying that people are selling for more it's not a real reason why keys rise.
I do agree with you up to some point - prices are updated to match the common trading point, but you can't dismiss the influence of bp.tf. Many people blindly set their sell price at the bp.tf price without looking at the listings/checking if the price is outdated.
If you are referring to proofless suggestions and manipulative price suggestions, those are closed/shot down by both the mods and community.
Wasnt the price changed just 2 days ago? As far as i know some days must pass until new vote or am i wrong?
Only if the new price suggested differs from the old one by less than 0.33.
Since no suggestion on the keys is less than 0.33 that means that there can be votings every single day?Or to put it better :Every time after a price suggestion close?
One of your 14.88 buyers is actually now buying at 15.22 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24195763
one of your 14.77 buyers now for 14.88 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24255488
14.66 buyer now for 14.77 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24860814
This one had an offer for 14.88 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24706022
I find this suggestion much more accurate than the previous one, and your buyers are good. I suggest you keep an eye out for sales though, you don't have many at 15 ref.
upvote good evidnece :3
buds are still useful since they take the space of many keys. ref is useful for buying small stuff like most stranges and most regular hats. if you have complaints about key pricing and the tf2 economy in general, try the forums, there are many topics about that sorta thing
the price in the steam store just went up, the price in refined should reflect that
The price in the Mann Co store didn't go up. The Mann Co store is priced in US dollars, a key is, was, and will continue to be $2.50 USD. The price in other regions is based on the current exchange rate between their local currency and US dollars. Not that this matters since the backpack.tf price has nothing to do with the Mann Co store.
If that was the case, the Ref would be worth its % when compared to a key, but thats not the case. One thing is to buy a key with real money and other is with ingame currency. it is to understnad the ingame currency changing based on how much desire and use are there for the items; thats the same reason as rare and older an item is, its value increase as long there are people looking for it.
I managed to sell two keys at 15 ref each:
http://imgur.com/W3h9ueZ&0v1dF2h#0
http://imgur.com/W3h9ueZ&0v1dF2h#1
Given that is supportive evidence towards the suggestion (evidence for or against a suggestion is always good), I don't understand why people are down voting you.
Good Proof
Nice proof.
And the key's always changing price so why not?
14.77:
http://i.imgur.com/sq3x2cB.png
http://i.imgur.com/isaPAXA.png
I dont like it, but it is like it is.
UPVOTE
Nice proof! Upvote!!
Some buyers dont have stock of refined to buy....
http://i.imgur.com/fwk7Y5L.jpg bought for 14.66
http://i.imgur.com/NrZjco8.jpg Sold for 15
http://i.imgur.com/td2nRX9.jpg Bought for 14.66
http://i.imgur.com/2D3eIOK.jpg Sold for 15
http://i.imgur.com/M2EURcX.jpg Bought for 15
This website can't keep up with keys. Approve this already.
I sold 2 within 5 minutes for 15 ref
Upvote
Just sold 6 keys for 15 refined.
Upvote! Good Proof ;P
Isn´t the cooldown rule still in effect?
Cooldown is in effect unless its at least a .33 difference
well done. Now put this in the forums where it belongs.
You're right, keys should be even higher than this suggestion.
I sold mine for 14.66 so fair game with good proof. Just look at the classifieds this was bound to happen *cough*.
-Cheezeburguh
I agree with this price. It's very difficult to find any sellers at 14 ref
finally someone who's not d0 suggesting XD
but yeah lots of proof, upvote
Quality not Quantity m80
fine... correction... lots of GOOD proof. jesus
!foorP dooG
!retovpU
The amount of prof is real. Upvote.
I can confirm I sold 6 of my keys for 15.
I think it has a good amount of evidence of buyers and sellers so Upvote
15.00refs is like quicksell now. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
it is bruh. i sold them myself.