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Genuine Stahlhelm
Submitted by Willsy
~3.11 ref
Genuine Stahlhelm
126 votes up
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Classifieds:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/genuine%20stahl

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2 at 1.22,

Many unsold @ 1.33.


Selling below 1.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12842544 - 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12782562 - 1.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12803567 - 1.11

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12838380 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12786446 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12792631 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12815489 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12809487 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12726765 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12644497 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12795221 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12774293 - 1.22

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12806907 - 1.22 (ha!)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12794911 - 1.22 IF in bulk

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12668403 - 1.22 IF in bulk


Unsolds at 1.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12784401 - 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12560219 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12374122 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12678802 - 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12813033 - 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12755558 - 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12632399 - 6 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12632399 - 3 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12458367 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12713024 - 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11230417 - 1 MONTH

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12712002 - 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12155758 - 2 weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11669732 - 1 month

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11936426 - 3 weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12426442 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12384725 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11191920 - 1 month

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12651205 - 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12575030 - 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12655329 - 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12774697 - 2 days


Don't give me any of that "craft hats are always 1.33" nonsense.

Comments, advice, constructive criticism, proof, counter-proof is always appreciated.

    I personally agree with this, as of late I've seen plenty of craft hats being sold at less than 1.33 and some including this one are very difficult to sell at 1.33.

      "craft hats are always 1.33". Copy-paste. Enjoy.

      If this rule changes, the market will crash. Simple. Though it crashes now anyway.

      So, as I can see, U want to speed up this process.

        This site was built to reflect the market not control it.

          Yes, but who said that this border was set by this site?

          How would the market crash by lowering craft hats? It's not a currency like keys or metal, some people don't even value them as a replacement for 1.33 anymore because they know that they're tough to sell.

            Yes, U're right, but if we lower this border once people won't even value them as the replacement for 1.22 soon, then 1.11, then 1 ref and so on.

            Wrong. Craft hats were 2:1 key. When keys were 2.33, hats were BELOW 1.33. Than keys went up to 2.66, and hats went up to 1.33. They stayed there, whilst keys moved up. But hats have NOT always been 1.33. It's an unspoken rule since months, but we HAD the same rule for bill's. "But scrap.tf buys at 1.33" WRONG, they stopped buying genuines. So I upvote and support this suggestion. Rules are there to be broken.

              Yep. The rule "craft hat = 1,33" gone just after the robotic update. Too much cancer hats, too much hats at all. Low demad for hats. Impossibility to sell them at 1,33. Price change is needed. But it's needed for all craft hats. Upvote.

            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12806907 - 1.22 (ha!) "QUICK SELL, NOT TO BE USED IN BP.TF SUGGESTIONS", well you can´t read I suppose, well that's OK

              That is not your decision to make. All trades belong to tf2 outpost.

                This is valid proof, even if it's listed as "quickselling". It's already unsold for 2 days at 1.22 ref.

                So why wouldn't he/she use it as proof?

              #fallofthecrafthats

              Tbh, I dont know if this should actually fall, so Im staying neutral.

              #crafthats@1.33

                It's the same as "bills are always 8 keys" and it was the same when buds recently began to fall. Assess the suggestion on its proof rather rather than the dogma that surrounds the item or group of items.

                  I understand your suggestion, but Im not sure if admin's would deem this valid. Idk. We'll see.

                    maybe it`s nonsense but your sugg. won`t pass,

                      Thanks for your brilliant contribution and irrefutable counter-proof. Read the rules you agreed to before posting unnecessary comments please.

                        Did the same about half a year ago with medic-mech-bag, an item nobody wants and which dropped so often on MvM. You better calm down before making unnecessary suggestions. What did you expect to read?

                          I thought I made it clear what I wanted to read. "Comments, advice, constructive criticism, proof, counter-proof is always appreciated."

                  I'm just wondering are quick sells like 13th link valid proof ? :/

                    Well the trade isn't that trader's property, it is the property of tf2 outpost and tf2 outpost has nothing against it's trades being used for proof as far as I'm aware. The quicksell price may be considered a quicksell on its own, but when it is the same as other sellers I feel it can be used as valid proof. It's not like it is an isolated quicksale,

                    Some clearly state that it's a quicksell. Bulk prices don't count since this website prices items individually.

                      Thanks for your input. The quicksell price may be considered a quicksell on its own, but when it is the same as other sellers I feel it can be used as valid proof. It's not like it is an isolated quicksale, but I see where you are coming from. As for the bulk prices, I feel that they show the items are difficult to sell for 1.33 but again wouldn't hold up for solitary proof.

                        As for the unsolds, no one is buying craft hats because there are really no new hats to be crafted. Next time hats are added to the craft result pool everyone is gonna try their hands at getting a low craft number. If the robohats are added, there will be 5700 low # to be crafted and then they'll be gone in hours. That's why scrap.tf is always overstocked in hats and not buying anymore.

                          Well when the market changes again, someone will make a suggestion adjusting it again to reflect the market. Just as I am making this suggestion to reflect the current market now.

                      Advice: Make a 1.22-1.33 suggestion for all hats and miscs!(I guess around 700 suggestions)

                        nope i don't think this is available in crafting anymore and so is the Companion Cube Pin

                          yes it still is. Some genuines are, some aren't. Gaben logic=best logic.

                          I feel this is going to take a turn for the worst. A bunch of other Genuines are going to decline, too. In turn, this is going to influence cheap crafting, in this case, crafting a hat would turn into 2.44 instead of 2.66.


                          I know it doesn't sound bad now, but if this starts to influence other hats going below the standard 1.33 it's going to cause some problems. It's best to keep such crappy hats at a standardized price so we don't screw up the hat crafts.[color#FF0000]This is a downvote from me.[/color]

                            You are explaining the effect this drop will have, but you aren't giving any counter-proof. This website has to reflect the market, and lying about sales and pretending hats still sell for 1.33 simply isn't the way to go.

                              Read the rules you agreed to. Don't post useless comments.

                              I think 15 (quicksale) links about this very common hat is not enough to change the whole market. If it'll be 1.22 ref, then it will be the cheapest craft hat out there, everybody will want it so the demand will go up and up, and that will increase the price, and then it'll be 1.33 ref again. It's an useless price change.

                                I went through many many pages of outpost sorting through people asking over 1.33 and people asking below 1.33. I went through every single trade. Don't call my proof "quicksale links". Find some proof of your own perhaps and post counterproof instead of predicting what will happen and telling me that I'm wrong for no reason.