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https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/61165-refined-suggestions-and-site-usd-values/ this is how you do it


Marketplace.tf Key sales:


https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5021;6


Most recent sales of mp.tf keys are between 1.83$ - 1.85$


1.83$ * 0.9= ~1.65

1.85$ * 0.9= ~1.67


Marketplace.tf + Mannco.store Refined sales:


https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5002;6

https://gyazo.com/380793c187e379128c8cd56790f49a5b

https://mannco.store/item/1763


https://gyazo.com/893280e60c5fb0233b5b03cd122c1cad


Constantly at 0.04$


Paypal sales:


1.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/70428-buying-keys-175-paypal/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198070705963


Bought 228 Keys for 1.75$


2.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/70262-buying-tf2-keys-165-usd-via-paypal/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197967345272


Bought 8 Keys for 1.65$


3.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/70840-tf2-keys-175-usd-ea-paypal-cashrep-trusted-steam/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198120347709


Selling for 1.75$ , doesn't seem to have sold any.


4.


https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/66758-buying-keys-for-167-usd-via-paypaltrusted-trader/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198063345374


Apprently bought 3311 Keys for 1.67$


5.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/68890-buying-keys-for-174usd-via-paypal/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198056793444


Bought 1177 Keys for 1.74$


6.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/58098-tf2csgo-keys-175-185-each-paypalwm-lots-of-rep/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197999121454


doesn't seem like he sold any Keys at 1.75$


7.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/47073-170-usd-for-your-keys-no-rep-needed-veteran-trusted-trader/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197969363424


Bought 1832 Keys for 1.70$

Bought 400 Keys for 1.69$ ( https://gyazo.com/f41d753f83f300e5ea7d1ecdd2f9d8bd )


8.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/66342-175-for-your-tf2-keys-paypal-us/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197968633696


Bought 200 Keys for 1.75$


9.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/71780-selling-850-keys-18-usd-each/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198044202601


Sold atleast 160 Keys for 1.80$


10.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/47271-300-rep-rockets-keys-for-175-via-paypal/

https://backpack.tf/trust/76561198049171595


Sold atleast 38 Keys for 1.75$


Summary of Key sales


1.65$

1.67$

1.69$

1.70$

1.74$

1.75$

1.75$

1.75$

1.75$

1.80$


Accepted Key suggestion :


https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d2108f1d38172385729a180


53.44-53.55

(53.495 ref)


last suggestion also used my key suggestion as proof :)


Cash:


1.65$ / 53.495= 0.030844

1.67$ / 53.495= 0.030844

1.69$ / 53.495= 0.031591

1.70$ / 53.495= 0.031778

1.74$ / 53.495= 0.032526

1.75$ / 53.495= 0.032713

1.75$ / 53.495= 0.032713

1.75$ / 53.495= 0.032713

1.75$ / 53.495= 0.032713

1.80$ / 53.495= 0.033648


Marketplace.tf


1.65$ / 53.495= 0.030844

1.67$ / 53.495= 0.030844


Marketplace.tf refined sales


0.04$


New proposed pirce:

0.03 - 0.04


https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d2786376780724ef812d95d#comment-5d336c8fd381721b693ae2f4

    I'v got a question, why take markeplace key value without the 10% geel tax? Sure the sellers gets without 10%, but buyers pays the 10% anyway.

    Not criticizing, just curious.

    Also why take 53.945 Ref? Buyers and sellers are a bit lower

      See discussion in previous suggestion.

      If it answers your questions; Good.

      If not; Just let it go..


      Mods defended previous suggestion -according to the rules, but then opted for a range cause it's "closer to accurate" despite the math not adding up.

      If the rules are right, this is wrong. If this is right, the rules must be wrong (ô­¸­­ô)


      idk....

        I think of it more as rules are obsolete - the further down the line this goes, the less accurate the values will be without rounding. Notice here that a range of 0.031-0.035 would put keys onsite very close to their true value (would be something like 1.75 or 1.76)

        However, with the refusal to keep the values unrounded, this is likely the closest we'll get.

          Sin is not a price mod, his comments are user comments same as yours.


          There is no particular reason we NEED to remove fees on refined sales, I believe the logic was that they are just that - a fee for using a safer service - but the reality is that buyers are willing to pay that so it can be taken into account. It's been done previously, and there's no written rule stating they must be removed as far as I'm aware?


          Previous suggestions:

          https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c13775844325a4a8b7a2e7e ->

          https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c17d743cf6c752ad40e05cb


          If we don't remove fees, that leaves the key sales closer to the midpoint here, and the volume of straight up refined sales at 0.04 lends weight to including it in the range. 0.03 is just flat out too low, this is a more accurate price point.

      now this is a pog moment

        As keys are currently self-correcting on BP.TF I would recommend this suggestion be closed until Keys can be properly updated and stabilized. They are currently trading 3-5 REF below standards here.

          Agree on holding off on acceptance, good suggestion otherwise but the current drop throws a wrench into things.

              Key drop enough and it will, as a matter of fact even after the fees for keys, metal is at the .035 mark now and with fees its nearly .04 and keys show no sign of stabilizing.

                lol, keys never show signs of stabilizing.

                  more stable than dropping ref per day