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Extremely outdated, it needs this update
65 pure (seller was not quickselling)
☆Current owner at 160 (1 year old price)
☆Highest buyer at 50
☆No more recent sales
☆Helpful comments are appreciated
Regardless if 160 is overpriced or not, 65 is clearly too low since it was sold so quickly for close to 60% off its price, this for sure would be considered a quicksell. Close and wait for a usable sale.
I just want to point out that the unusual recently has a new owner i checked bps but dont match.
So i contacted the last owner Shmevin and this is his answer:
oof. but this makes me wonder, does gambling affect the price of the unusual?
I put that info in order to clarify that was not a sale, he was just gambling with the other guy. So 65 keys sale remains as the main evidence
Why does the trading community even try to argue suggestions like these? They are obviously incorrect, but the pricing moderators do not listen and do a half ass job and say "better than current" Not blaming it on them since accepting price suggestions would get pretty ****ing boring. This will most likely get accepted, so can we stop wasting out time.
Highest buyer at 60, this doesn't make any sense.
You are so inocent... that buy order was listed after this suggestion. And that buy order was made by Sexysparta (the owner of strange orbiting fire plumber's cap, listed by him at 200 keys lol). That buy order is fake, manipulation purpose.
Sold in under 2 days = Quicksale. No?
i was the one he bought it off of. had the item for roughly a month
And how long was it listed for 65 before it sold?
He tried to sell it in mp.tf for 65 keys aprox. I say aprox, because key price changes very often
I browse the "deals" section daily and absolutely would have bought if I had seen it there.
I'm fairly sure it was sold at this price for a VERY short amount of time.
Really? And why didnt you buy these plumber's cap too? According to you quicksales suggestions accepted:
And i didnt mention that haunted ghost plumber's cap worth 165 vs 160 orbiting fire (lol) it really needs an update...
And green energy plumber's cap, has recent sales at 127 and 132 pure (not quicksales)
If you want to crash this suggestion, post evidence and not opinions
listed at 150 ~15 days ago
That is the guy (Engie Mane) who sold it for 65, he couldnt sell it for 150 because it is too high
usually if someone lists at 150 keys then sells for a price 85 keys under their listing, its a quicksell
A. effects aren't priced based on other effects on the same hat.
B. this one is unbelievably themed.
C. my point wasn't about how much i'd pay. my point was that i'm 99% sure it wasn't up for long whatsoever at this price.
D. i have no desire to "crash this suggestion" nor do I have any horse in this race. i'm simply adding something to look into in an attempt to contribute to the goal of making this item accurately priced, as I believe there is a decent chance that this sale was within the quicksale window.
What you said here is your opinion of him not able to sell dont and as you said before there is no need for thoughts here just facts and it was a QS
No, he is right. I didn't even get an offer before the guy negotiated me down to the price I sold at. i don't consider this a quicksale
This is exactly what happened. I didn't even get as much as an offer before the guy who is selling now convinced me to sell for lower. In retrospect, 65 was probably a little too low but I was not personally a fan of the hat and wanted to get some other items. Not sure why your comments are getting downvoted, the hat is definitely overpriced.
They downvote because they have a monopoly with unusual prices and they always look for ridiculous excuses to crash suggestion made by users like me. They are denying contundent evidence (pure sale not outdated or overpriced ****ing items). You are the plumber's cap seller and you already said that you were not quickselling. So they have opinions vs 0 evidence to confirm the opposite
Exactly. I don't see any orbiting fire plumber's caps going for 160 right now, or else my previous listing of 150 would have been sold in a heartbeat. And I bumped that post several times. The cap looks cool for sure and the effect matches the theme, but that is not enough to inflate it so high over what orbiting fire effects are going for on other hats.
They inflate those items because the excuse is "assasin's grade" "elite grade" "commando grade", etc.
With cancer effects, garbage. Orbiting planets, massed flies, nuts n bolts, smoking, dead presidents... all those plumber's cap are for sale at extremely high prices and they still unsold. When someone sold for the "real price" today 2018 not when rainy day was launched, they say "ohhh it is a quicksale he sold for more than 50% off, close it"
You should take your own advice. What everyone else is providing is facts: this is a quicksell, so it is not usable. You are arguing your opinions: you think this hat is overpriced
Im not think this hat is overpriced, it is a FACT, and if you believe the opposite... come on go and buy it for 160 pure and show me that im wrong
Again, you’re stating your opinion that it’s overpriced lol.
Setting a buy order at 63, confirms that orbiting fire is overpriced at 160
So you’re saying something is overpriced if the quickbuy price is higher than 30% off? Using that logic, your spellbound katyusha is overpriced because quickbuyers at 25 keys. xd
I set my buy order at 63 to quickbuy it seeing how it’s over 50% off the given price.
Oh! you are setting that buy order with a manipulation purpose...
Nope. Buy orders after a suggestion is made are invalid. You can see the case in this suggestion https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5b1ce43bcf6c75504c57e0b7
Plus, my buy order has nothing to do with what I said, so I don’t know why you mentioned it.
It's themed tho
65? smh. even if scrap.tf can pay more than this I supposed
Buyers at 60 tho...
Even if there are buyers at 60, 65, etc it’s the sales that count, not things that may or may not happen. Plus, I think those buy orders have been around for a little while and not just a couple days.
Also selling something extremely fast for a massive discount is a definite quicksale, and I don’t think quicksales can be used...
How this is still up is confusing to me.
Facts to counter the suggestion were provided already (QS, Short listing time. etc.)
Judging by the amount of people that have voted on this, I wouldn't be surprised to see over 50% having disagreed with this new price. The only argument one can bring at the moment is that effects are priced based on others, which has,is and never will be the case.
(Also impressive over 400 people, thanks for your contribution in this!)
Banter aside, I don't see anything directly disproving the suggestion here. It hasn't resold in over a month, it struggled to sell below current as is evidenced by the seller. Gradually lowering your BO doesn't mean that if you just took another step down and sell it fast, none of the other selling points matter anymore; even 150 at and below which it has been selling for over a month according to the seller himself is below current.
Not arguing that this can't be on the low, but I don't see an immensely compelling case to reject this sale - hell, even the "manipulator buyers" alluded to aren't at or above the price, which is usually the case in similar situations.
As with most of these cases, if it turns out that this is too low, it can always be resuggested once it resells.