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Unique Mann Co. Supply Crate Key
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Buyers @ 25.88:


STN:

http://imgur.com/a/HLu3M


Qtnex:

http://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198038426017


Danio:

ttp://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198169422320


Meeseeks:

http://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198357892374


Phoenix:

http://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198060428214


Clayrabbit:

http://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198159684317


Spade:

http://imgur.com/a/F9gdL

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198295818500


HkSh:

http://imgur.com/a/eXfCv

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198295980573


Lightningbot:

http://imgur.com/a/eXfCv

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198357297933


Spongebot:

http://imgur.com/a/eXfCv

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198340634356


Flashbot:

http://imgur.com/a/eXfCv

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198311911589


Stewbot:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355313935


Itembot3:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198311319887


Itembot1:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198171369482


Dragbot1:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198078378341


Dragbot2:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198127112060


Dragbot3:

http://imgur.com/a/hvvxT

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198155849485


Buyers @ 25.77 that support:


Jackbot:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198294666015


Pikabot:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198327078449


Lila:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198055847835


Items:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198305168523


Botson:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198280497159


Sprekt:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198267189538


Idk:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198061510276


Rave:

http://imgur.com/a/kdFyy

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198133814282


Others:

http://imgur.com/a/1NCw8

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198192838927

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198258109434

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198077531603

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198175727153


Outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26910525 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26843369 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835037 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832283 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834751 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834623 - 26

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28827562 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834799 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831130 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28828013 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28828013 - 25.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28826222 - 25.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831867 - 25.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832748 - 25.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834924 - 25.77

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259 - 25.77


Bazaar:

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1319717 - 26

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1530048 - 26

http://bazaar.tf/trade/995444 - 25.88

http://bazaar.tf/trade/1124443 - 25.88

http://bazaar.tf/trade/603579 - 25.77


There are no valid sellers below 26 refined, and plenty of buyers @ 25.88. The other suggestion is basing their 26 refined end off of 4 buyers, all of which are already gone, meaning there is no valid proof on that suggestion for 26 refined. Bottom line, there are plenty of buyers at 25.88 that show a common point, whilst there are plenty of sellers @ 26 that counter his suggestion that has very little proof to begin with.


If you have any other proof/sales that support, comment them below as they do help. Thanks.

        You can't raise the price of an item based off of sellers.

      Still a solid suggestion. Buyers are consistent even after 2 days. Upvote.

        Yeah at the time this looked good. Now there are a few more buyers that have shifted up to 26, not enough for 26 itself however. (at least not for right now). Just depends on what wave the market takes. Till then i'll leave this open.

                  http://m.imgur.com/HEX6iy8


                  Only 3 buyers at 26, one of which is not buying and has been there all day, not to mention he can only buy one key so it doesn't even matter. Another is offline, and the bot is young. 25.88 is fine here. :P


                  Edit: the bot was gone before posting this comment. So only 2 invalid buyers at 26 now.

                  This still looks good.

                  Every now and then a few buyers pop up at a number above your suggested price but almost instantly go out of metal or just don't buy keys.

                  Also.. why do people make buy orders at 26 Refined when there's literally hundreds for sale at 26 Refined...


                  Anyways, the last 2 days have supported a bump to 25.88 Refined and still does.


                  And jesus Relic, good work on the amount of proof.

                  Setting the standard for proof required for currency suggestions.

                    Update


                    Classies:


                    Itembot1:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198171369482


                    Itembot3:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198311319887


                    STEWbot:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355313935


                    Spongebot:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198340634356


                    HkSh:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198295980573


                    Mastikhor:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310583992


                    Vidary:

                    http://imgur.com/a/OPrUB

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198173026007


                    Diagorou:

                    http://imgur.com/a/GuZrY

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198084514839


                    Phoenix:

                    http://imgur.com/a/GuZrY

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198060428214


                    Simon:

                    http://imgur.com/a/GuZrY

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198341449455


                    Meeseeks:

                    http://imgur.com/a/nWXED


                    Dragbots:

                    http://imgur.com/a/n32S9

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198155849485

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198127112060

                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198078378341


                    Outpost:

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - b/s 26?

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26910525 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26843369 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832283 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835037 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834623 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 26

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28805089 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28827562 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835744 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834799 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28837263 - 25.88

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832748 - 25.77

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28836672 - 25.77

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27212475 - 25.77

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28826222 - 25.77

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831867 - 25.77


                    Edit: Interesting. A handful of my buyers have dropped back down to 25.77. Still no sellers below 26 refined however. Guess we might have to wait a little longer to see if sellers or buyers drop.

                            yeah i agree there's Alot of buyers buying at 25.88. Upvote.

                              Update:

                              There isn't as many buyers @ 25.88 at the moment and not a lot of sellers @ 25.88 either. More sellers @ 26 and more buyers at 25.77.


                              However 25.88 still does seem like a decent mid point due to both sellers and the buyers. Upvote.

                                Only 4 buyers at 25.88 and 2 are invalid, handful of sellers starting to pop up at 25.88 like you said. Raising with buyers wouldn't be good enough atm. This might fall short depending on if more sellers drop.

                                Classifieds: http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1

                                Screenshot(s) of Classifieds:

                                http://imgur.com/dcopjMH


                                <Sellers>

                                25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4102213550 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310752705 | Listed 31 minutes ago

                                25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/2615943789 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561197995059584 | Listed about 12 hours ago [Bumped]

                                25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/5451574772 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198345993088 | Listed 5 days ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4915230112 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198358090160 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/2757671145 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310144372 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/3218994562 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198342136112 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4300477226 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198341449455 | Listed about 5 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4955855218 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355796365 | Listed about 2 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/3202545095 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198340634356 | Listed about 2 hours ago [Bumped]

                                26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/5600456731 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198356095959 | Listed 45 minutes ago [Bumped]


                                The first bot has roughly 30 keys and the second bot has 299 keys. Probably an up vote since they have a pretty big stock between the two.

                                  Only 4 buyers @ 25.88:

                                  http://m.imgur.com/qEBRNEQ

                                  http://m.imgur.com/nqvcgGa


                                  Stn bots only counts as one buyer, not two. As of now there are only 4 buyers at 25.88, and one of them is stn, dont count on them staying there for long as they change their prices about 30 times throughout the day. Sellers are staying at 26, earlier there was a handful of bot sellers at 25.88 tho. This is gonna stay up for a while.


                                  Edit: just realized you linked sellers ._.


                                  Sellers dont help here, as you cant raise the price of an item with sellers. buyers or sales is what you need to raise the price of an item.

                                    There are now several buyers at 25.88 again. I think it would be safe to assume that most sales that have happened over the past 3 days have been from the buy orders of 25.88 and sellers at 25.88.

                                    The cheapest sellers are now at 26 flat.

                                      Yea I was gonna make a last update but busy rn I will later tonight if this is still up. 2 pages of buyers at 25.8u all day long. Should be good now.

                                    Second Update.


                                    Buyers @ 25.88:


                                    Clayrabbit:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/lNAoQ

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198159684317


                                    Symmetra:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/lNAoQ

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198356095959


                                    Probot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/lNAoQ

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198358090160


                                    Annebot2:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/lNAoQ

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355796365


                                    Botman:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/lNAoQ

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355436882


                                    Superbot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/ic6ft

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198346367710


                                    Anarkey:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/ic6ft

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198045466865


                                    Crubot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/ic6ft

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198306211537


                                    Flaim:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198104991389


                                    Samurai:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198342136112


                                    Annebot1:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198341449455


                                    Spongebot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198340634356


                                    John wick:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310144372


                                    Tom cruise:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/zFEj4

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198295122993


                                    HkSh bot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/dWv1d

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198295980573


                                    Phoenix:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/dWv1d

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198060428214


                                    Stewbot:

                                    http://imgur.com/a/dWv1d

                                    http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355313935


                                    Outpost:

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26843369 - 26

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834623 - 26

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28660704 - 26

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28837561 - 26

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835037 - 26

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26910525 - 26/.88?

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28827562 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28805089 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834799 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28837263 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835744 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28816276 - 25.88

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - 25.77

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27212475 - 25.77

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832748 - 25.77

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831867 - 25.77

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28839525 - 25.77

                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28836672 - 25.77


                                    Over the time span of the past few days, I think it's pretty evident that 25.88 has been the most common point, and the sellers have been frozen at 26 refined the whole time showing anything higher would be too high/inaccurate.


                                    Goodnight ~

                                      *cough* my 5 day old bot is popular now . I've not bought many keys for 25.88 today, but the 27 or so I put in from this account sold almost instantly at 26. Either way, the price raise won't affect our bots, so carry on

                                        In key suggestions, do you have to use outpost or is bazaar.tf, scrap.tf, stn, etc. acceptable?

                                          In my opinion scrap.tf is no valid source. They don't change their prices often enough for that. They have 2555-2566 at the moment. I don't think that is the market value, but I might be wrong

                                            I know they've been slowly listing all day. No idea why they left this up for so long.

                                              There have been way more sales at 25.88 though. 25.88 looks like the most common trading point, which is what we are after. I think this suggestion should be alright.

                                                Yeah, that's honestly a bad move on the mods' part, if I'm not missing anything. The buyers at 25.88 were up for a good three days before ones at 26 started to appear. I can understand if the prices were rising really fast, and the suggestion couldn't keep up with the buyers, but this isn't the case here.

                                                  If you wait long enough all price suggestions will eventually become incorrect. Relic might be a legend at this stuff, but he doesn't have crystal balls*. The suggestion was and in my opinion is still spot on. I hope we can all agree on that. Edit: +10% more grammar.

                                                Let's discuss this reasonably, most economists agree that inflation encourages growth, which is good, metals have quite obviously been inflating in value but they have been inflating so rapidly that it is unsustainable. We must slow the growth of the price of keys now or they will crash in value in the future. Please head my warning and don't make the same mistakes countries like Zimbabwe made.

                                                  why should he? this site was made to keep track of the CURRENT price, if the price went up of a scrap then it's a good moment to update the price.

                                                    Yes but I doubt that changes anything in sellers/buyers.

                                                      people who's been in the market for years won't even look at bp price and they'll do their own researches, but newbies (people who's new to tradine) will be really useful to have an updated price.

                                                      Scrap.tf is always just weird. I know I am pointing a finger at everyones favorite seller, but it is true.