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Sorry MaGenta, was offered this and had to find a more correct value for myself.


Sale # 1 - Sold for Electrostatic Crone's Dome 185 keys


History of Electrostatic Crone's Dome - http://backpack.tf/item/1648013305

History of Tyrants - http://backpack.tf/item/2031747709


Sale # 2 - Sold for Circling Peace Sign Hong Kong ConeAfter overpay = 219 keys Rounding to 220 before the rounding police get me :P

Bp of Seller Before http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087204636?time=1428997950

Bp of Seller After http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198087204636?time=1429167600

History of Circling Peace Sign Hong Kong Cone - http://backpack.tf/item/2887022024

History of Tyrant - http://backpack.tf/item/2031747709


Sale # 3 - Sold for Scorching Chieftains + Smoking Rack + 30 keys After overpay = 153 keys Rounding to 150 keys

Bp of Seller Before http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198046847315?time=1432710000

Bp of Seller After http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198046847315?time=1432877100

History of Tyrants - http://backpack.tf/item/2031747709

History of Chieftains - http://backpack.tf/item/195779363

History of Rack - http://backpack.tf/item/1454005746


Seller on classfieds for 190, calling sale #2 an outlier - http://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Tyrant's%20Helm/Tradable/Craftable/79 , http://gyazo.com/75b45e0c9909ee870ebddd4ea39e7c71


Mini's


Electrostatic Crone's Dome - Sold for Spellbound Charmer's ChapeauAfter overpay = 185 keys

Bp of Seller Before http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198092472594?time=1429599600

Bp of Seller After http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198092472594?time=1429738747

History of Chapeau - http://backpack.tf/item/2061812573

History of Crones - http://backpack.tf/item/1648013305


Scorching Flames Chieftain's Challenge - Sold with for Spellbound Sergeant's Drill Hat After overpay = 91 keys

Bp of Seller Before http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198076370493?time=1434092400

Bp of Seller After http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198076370493?time=1434058929

History of Drill - http://backpack.tf/item/2035919044

History of Chieftains - http://backpack.tf/item/195779363


Calling Final range at 150-185 keys due to a seller on classfieds for 190, which in turn makes sale #2 invalid


Any tips or suggestions leave below!


Have an awesome day! :3

    Why would that make the second sale invalid? If their B/O on the classifieds was 190 and sold for 219 then it would be 190.

      It's better to set a high end on a sale over a B/O.

        Yea I'm not saying the B/O takes preference, saying that it still sold so why isn't the sale included?

          Let's say there was a sale at 20, 30, and 50. There's a seller on outpost/classifieds for 40. I don't know about you, but I'd make the range 20-30 as that is the tightest, most viable range I would pull from that situation. In the situation I presented 50 would be an outlier as for the suggestion 220 is an outlier.

            Right but if his B/O was 40 and it sold for 50, and since the price can never be above the B/O (or however that rule goes) then the price would end up being 40 with the 10 keys as overpay, this is pretty common, so the range would be 20-40. So why would that sale get disregarded?


            Also I'd agree to a certain extent if the difference was larger but the difference between 153 & 185 is only 32 keys and 185 and 219 is 34 keys so I'd hardly say it's an outlier give the 2 key difference there. But since they had a B/O of 190 then it'd be priced at the B/O making it 153-190 and we're talking about outliers here then the 153 would obviously be the outlier since it's difference is a lot more than 185 and 190.


            Also why am I getting dv'd for just asking this?

              Because I tried to explain it, and you're not accepting the explanation. Sales are considered outliers so ranges aren't to wide. Not every single sale that occurs. You're basically asking why isn't the Burning Team Captain 1300 - 6600 keys.

                I understand how outliers work and the point in reducing ranges and it's not that I'm not accepting the explanation, it's that the explanation doesn't explain everything I was asking.

                I'm not asking in general how this works, I've asked very specifically on this particular sale as to why the one sale was disregarded in the exact way it was disregarded, though I highlighted a rule which would allow it.

                If it is to be disregarded for the sake of reducing range then why not honestly say that if that's the case? Is it the case where now hat pricing is reduced to arbitrarily picking two sales and pricing on that? I have no benefit in the pricing of this hat I'm just questioning the manner in which this particular sale is being priced. I understand if you or others have a problem with that as the community generally seems to dislike this sort of inquiry on the pricing strategies people have.

                  Because it's an outlier, I don't think it's possible to explain this any further? There is someone willing to sell lower than the sales value for a while, and their are more sales lower than that actual sale/BO. There really is nothing more to say.