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Edited a bit. Re-suggested since some people like to spam.
Classifieds
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/?item=Hunter%20Heavy&quality=6&tradable=1&craftable=1
2-2.66 ref on the first page
Unsolds for 2.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24624146
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24565176
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24572583
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24634402 2 in stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24465555
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24518252
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24548823
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24484972
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24514994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24568471
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24647083
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24591116
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24600539
Sellers at 2.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24659396
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24653961
Seller at 2.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24601468
Sellers for 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24655581
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24645036
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24629363
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24627219
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24633732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24652036
Sellers at 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24575424
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24605525
Glitch, if you do comment here, I'm not going to reply, I really can't take you seriously, since you have no price suggestions accepted, and you have a $12 backpack, and you're commenting how I'm doing these suggestions wrong.
Glitch, the spoiler is for you.
your doing it worngProof is sufficient _______. (fill in the rest. it starts with "up" and ends with "vote".)
Lol I was thinking you were going to argue.Thanks for your support =)
Good proof. Upvote.
Seeing as I found solds that fit the range, it works. However something doesn't seem right with the proof you gave.
Unsolds for 2.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24634402 - is terribly young (1 day)
Seller at 2.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24659396 - young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24653961 - young
Sellers for 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24655581 - young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24645036 - young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24629363 - young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24633732 - young
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24652036 - terribly young and unbumped
Sellers at 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24659373 - 1 hour old (so freaking young)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24575424 - looks like they are going for a quicksell.
Counter
(continuing to look more sales)
Solds at 2.66:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24544105 - (looks like 2 of 3 sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24606272
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24651318 - quicksold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24186360 - Listed price (2.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24568082 - (Backpack.tf price)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24314079 - (backpack.tf price, may be old)
2 for sure solds at 2.33
Sold (2.33?):
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24050923
(basing price guess off of http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24473453)
Very young unsold at 2.77:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24658093
Once again, your ignoring all the solds. (Not needed, but since they seem to mostly go against your suggestion and you decided to not bother even implementing them in your suggestion it looks like your hiding something.)
#3 quicksold
the level 42 one likely sold fast
the rest, meh
You mean this one?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24651318
If that quicksold at the current price then maybe we don't need a drop at all. /s
A single trade doesn't make the market for a common item...
I never said that one entire sell determines the entire market (it was mostly sarcasm). I have provided at least 6 sells at 2.66
yes
That technically helps. He's keeping 2.66 in the range. :P
Thank you Jacob, I've said that on the last suggestion, he doesn't understand that.
His suggestion included sellers at 2.33, that is valid proof actually.
So you can only use sellers to lower the price even when you don't use the many solds there actually are (including ones that only support the current price and high end of the range he made)?
If people are selling for 2.33 and they're not sold, why wouldn't it be in the range?
Surs has sellers at 2.33, meaning 2.33 should be in the price as a number of people are willing to sell at that price. The fact 2.66 still sells (as shown by the proof you provided) means that 2.66 needs to be in the range as well. 2.66 still sells, but people are willing to sell at 2.33 as well, hence the range.
Hope this clears things up, upvote btw
Now that I found the new 2.33 sales, most of my argument means nothing. My problem was (at least in the first suggestion he made for this where I had not found those 2.33 solds), I showed Surs the 2.66 sales showing it already sells at the current price. If people want to sell it lower then the currently selling price it most likely means they are selling it lower to try and get it sold faster.
If people want to sell it lower then the currently selling price it most likely means they are selling it lower to try and get it sold faster.
If that doesn't happens, means this needs a drop.
Your logic is flawed.
Maybe I'm just not connecting it correctly, but the item sells at 2.66 (not all the time by the looks of the sellers, but it still sells fairly well), so if the current price still is sellable, does the price need to be lowered just because people are willing to sell it for less? (there are still more sellers at the current price then sellers selling for less then 2.66)
Correct, there we go.
If they're stacking at a lower point and remaining unsold, it should be included in the price. 2.66 sells, yes, but its still on the range and its the main trading point, that's why there is almost always more.
Thank you. Guess i got carried away and starting loosing my brain over this. Originally my problem with his proof was almost all his sellers are less a day or less young while the 2.66 ones are not. It seemed suspicious including when it sells at the current price but (and this is when i didn't find the 2.33 solds) the only proof used is extremely young sellers to set the range.
Yeah, his trades (at 2.33) are pretty young, but if there are a lot of people selling at a lower price, it can still warrant a drop if it becomes easy to find the item at that price, even if it sells quickly. Now that the trades have aged a little and still not sold his suggested price is agreeable.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5458269db98d8803778b4988 - Had a lot of 2 ref quicksells, but the volume of them meant the suggested price was warranted
kinda young seller for 2.55 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24655520
Yeah I know that's a bit young, I just provide whatever evidence I can find, and it'll be older by the time the moderators look at this.
Young. If it doesn't quicksells at 2.55 it needs a little drop