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Welcome to Keys upprice 2. After 1month of rising, hope they are expensive ;)
Hello ! Hope i'm doing great.
For each solds , i checked : The date of the trade creation; The history; the price of the keys at the buy
I dont need to provide buyer at less than 17, sold at less than 17 => not in range.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23919869 - 17 sold 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24301221 - 17 sold 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24169532 - 17 sold 39
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24302078 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24297238 - 17 solds 5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962345 - 17 sold 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24290911 - 17 sold 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24287637 - 17 sold 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24302107 - 17 sold very fast
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24243816 - 17 sold (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24261931 - 17 sold 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24290911 - 17 sold 2.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23885944 - 17 sold 2.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24261931 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24300811 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23686683 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24264062 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21521961 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23962345 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24292845 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24265808 - 17 sold 3.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24196637 - 17 sold 1.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24117296 - 17 sold 4.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24253849 - 17 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24261931 - 17.11 sold (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24236124 - 17.22 sold 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24205014 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24116668 - 17.33 sold 3
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24297778 - 17.33 sold 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24169532 - 17.33 sold x36
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24055156 - 17.33 sold x150
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24233650 - 17.33 sold (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24031128 - 17.33 sold 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23927765 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24264909 - 17.33 solds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24265880 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24097885 - 17.33 sold 3.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24109108 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24268581 - 17.33 sold 3
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24116596 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23858614 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24116668 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24205014 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24266175 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23818316 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24232597 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24110128 - 17.33 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24296241 - 17.33 sold (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24118479 - 17.66 sold 6
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24114577 - 17.66 - sold 7
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24282961 - 17.66 - sold 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24181781 - 17.66 - sold 20
goodbye TF2 trading, i'm officialy done with you
Earbuds are going up there is hope
Yep and that hype lasted as much as the average guy in bed, who would have guessed. The truth is that tf2 trading is just unforgiving for new players who are not that eager to put a lot of cash into a 7 years old game just to make their classes look cool. So yeah, his statement is annoying and yet understandable..
Tbh, if the buds are back to rising, I feel that the key economy is screwed even further. Whatever, good proof, upvote.
That doesn't mean anything economy is still ****ed up im trying to sell everything in my bp and switch to csgo and leave tf2 forever
Anyways downvoting 2 days since last change give keys a break
The only reason Earbuds went up very temporarily is because 10 year old's got a 50 dollar steam card in their sock for Christmas. Regarding this suggestion I think 17.33 is a bit too high maybe if you found more buyers for that price I would up-vote however due to the last suggestion on Earbuds being accepted with only 8 or 9 links of proof I best stay neutral.
Really? 17.33 is too high when there are 15+ solds for it? GG
a ton more people are buying for 17.11 and even selling for 17.11 either way I think its too early to call 17.33 part of a range. I'd rather wait.
Bud suggestions being passed with less proof is only because the market is smaller, has nothing to do with pricing other items, regardless of whether or not it is another currency.
thts me !!!!!!! XD !!!!!!!!!!!
That may be so, however this vote lies under the jurisdiction of the users, and as it stands refined is worth $0.16 and 0.16 x 17= $2.72, so i wouldn't depend on that notion considering the system is all "out of whack." Still i hope for the best. Downvote in light of logic and statistics
Well if you think about it, key and bud prices should always be the same in a way. The same amount of refined should go into buds always. That's why when keys weren't completely insane in price, buds costed more. By raising buds, greedy people are just making keys more expensive. The proper thing to do is lower key prices a little to match buds, lower buds to match keys, or lower keys and make refined metal more expensive. Let the dislikes roll in :D
Aand.... They fell down again. Now buds are 13 keys.Still better than 11 though.
that keys will finally go back down?
To whoever is reading this.... u guys gotta admit he has the proof so upvote! :D
Cooldown doesn't apply to a change greater than or equal to .33
oh didn't know that
He doesn't need prove, any economy will slowly enflate if not regulated by a governing body. Don't upvote this you idiots or eventually the TF2 bublle will burst. I can't believe they let people run the economy like this
Whats a TF2 "bublle"?
soon enough people who have more real life cash will be he richer one. well i dont really care upvote for good proof .
We need to lower keys back to the road for 3 ref!
VOTE NO FOR JUSTICE
all you are doing is making yourself look like an idiot ok stop thank you
finally somebody realized that. TF 2 economy is gonna crash soon
Why are we still raising the key price? Do you realize what this does to the tf2 economy?
it shows how healthy it is :P
For metal grows at an exponentially greater rate than that of keys and the market is merely trying to meet the equilibrium of supply and demand. Expect it to grow much more until people stop buying keys with metal.
healthy my ass
current refined metal price according to bp.tf is 0.16$
0.16 x 17 = 2.72$
key is being sold for 1.99euro at steam community store which is 2.43$
2.72$ - 2.43$ = 0.29$ you can literally save 1ref by just selling refs and buying stuff from steamcommunity store
But you have to sell the refined first, and with so many sellers out there..
Do YOU realise ref is dropping too and you can still buy keys for 2.50????? this is literally making no change in the market, except giving new players a good start because of the amount of ref they can exchange keys into.
What if people don't want to spend money on the game..?
Raising the ref to key ratio is just making it harder on f2p players....
If they're F2P, then they don't care about the economy, they just want to play the game.
Some F2P beg for items and trade to get a upgrade to premium
My honest tip, is to get csgo and trade there, keys there will always be the same price.
we arent a ****ing company! stop posting this.....
you ain't get richer in real life.
shouldnt keys be worth like 2.49$ or arround that like in the mannco store? iidk.... with this post keys are goin to be atleast 2.80$
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24118479 is on 17.33 already.
;_; its 2 much 4 me. i quit.
Cooldown rule is in effect.
Price increase is 0.33, I know the cool down doesn't apply if the change is either greater than 0.33 or just equal to 0.33, can anyone clarify?
It previously increased by a refined, or something like it. So it must be applied.. I guess?
Doesn't answer my question.
Quote from the forums:
Do not suggest a new price range for keys until 3 days have passed since the last one,
Unless the price has changed by 0.33 refined or greater.
Or if you do not agree with the last change, you may suggest to revert back with supporting proof and arguments.
Thanks. Vote is valid then
so maybe the rule needs to be updated? 0.33 was a good thing when price was changing by a couple of scraps. now it's changing by 1-2 refs
I would guess that, if this pass cool-down time or if this is apparently valid range, it might get accepted shortly after cool-down ends.
well the same thing happened with buds and the suggestiong got accepted and there was basically no proof :3
Pretty sure that was a special case for multiple reasons considering buds can only top at 20 keys given their constant up and down history over the past few years. Buds are limited by how many keys an individual can buy, refined is unlimited based on just how many accounts some can get and idle with alts. Keys are most likely far more strict regarding the cooldown rule.
Keys are so expensive :D
Hard to believe this is still going up considering most I see in classifieds are 17 ref.
keys might stop at this new price if this gets accepted
Most likely they will (hopefully)
Keep hoping, it ain't gonna happen. Sadly.
This is pathethic.
Yes, upvote on this suggestion, let the price rise, let the economy fall. F*ck this ****, i don't care any more i'm just going to play TF2, without hats, killstreaks, other ****, just killing enemies and doing map targets. The game is fun, the economy is ****. Goodbye.
I can feel the edge.
Good to know I am not the only one ^c^
Meh. Classifieds are full of 17 ref or less. Neutral for now.
alot of proof
The sad truth is that no matter what, people ill always trade with keys just above the price :P
Welp; inflation is extreme, proof is proof. Upfat.
Man... what the f**k was happened to this game when I was gone... I'm curious.
Dat 4 ref for Bill
Welp refined kinda lost value, due to many, MANY more people preferring to get keys and unbox versus crafting items. Basically the buying power of keys has risen since these days you have encapsulated.
im pretty sure people trade ref for keys not because unboxing but because you can sell them to market and further get games.
Great proof but, If we keep doing this people will be like oh keys went up again and start to sell for 1 - 5 ref higher than normal price. That is how people got so much proof. There is always a metric ton of people who want to maximize profit no matter what. Downvoted.
You know, you don't hav to downvote because people are upricing.
This is normal if the price keep go up. Thereis no reason for you to downvote. I agree with you, but not for your downvote.
I'm only doing my job. I'm updating the price.
I know but I downvoted because for me its illogical. it is self inflation
But this is like this. Your opinion does not count in a vote.
Are my proof good ?
If yes , you don't have to downvote.
It's not because you dn't like the hat or whatever you have to downvote. I'm sorry, but this is stupid.
Yes, but this is actually good. Metal value is not specified anywhere, it's worth only as much as people are ready to pay for it (and I bet they can pay even 20-30 ref for a key). What backpack.tf is doing here, is letting people realize how much others are willing to pay. This leads to stronger economy, exactly opposite to what not so smart kids try to spread - "oh nooo TF2 exonomy is crashiiiing!" - it actually PREVENTS sudden crash.
Mm, thanks for acknowledging me. Changed it to upvote!
Then enjoy the x in your votes box on your profile
Yes, but logically, keys should be at about 8.66 ref, Tour of Duty tickets should be 4 ref, and 1 ref should be 25 cents exactly. This is a stable economy that should function with the real price of the Mann Co tickets of one dollar, while keeping ref at a high, respected price.
And keys, while being .66 ref, are a fraction better than buying Mann Co. Tickets, which in turn will preserve the price of Australiums. This is because not everyone will buy Tour of Duty tickets, and so Aussies will still be rare. Thank you for listening, and someday we can get those keys downpriced!
Finally, someone who understands economy! Liked!
why do people get price higher. And i think this needs more proof. There are just few people who solds or buys for that.
I want 1 key = 14 ref
Nah, more like 1 key=1 ref! Bring TF2 back to the good ol' days!
The problem with keys is that there are 90,000 of them. If you base them off of a small percent of those 90,000, then you are not including a large portion of buyers, and in fact could be just including the small portion of over payers, which would inflate the price dramatically.
Show me 20,000 solds at 17 refined, and I will upvote. Otherwise, I will continue to downvote.
Also, just as a side note, with the current Paypal price of refined at 16 cents, keys can either be 15 refined (if you are going off of Steam) or about 30 refined (if you are going off of Paypal, which is more suitable).
Also, I don't want to call out anyone on this, but it is quite clear that administrators are ignoring the fact that there is rather fast inflation by simply warning those comments. It's only stating an opinion which is not harmful. In fact, it is constructive as it can get people to think about the current market.
Again, don't want to call anyone out, but with more items in the market, you need more proof, which is something administrators and the community alike have been ignoring.
There isn't like 20 000 key on the market. Did you forget about people have +200 key in their b not for sales ?
If you can find ANY key suggestion with +500 link , i will give you a bud.
Okay, so 2 things then. How many keys are on the market, and what is the ratio of keys on the market and keys just sitting there?
Also, I won't be checking on this suggestion too often, as for I do not trade anymore.
More like 900,000 keys lmao. Anyone making a suggestion doesn't have enough proof for anything most of the time. 900 thousand keys in existence and 4.5 million metal, wat. Give this man an award or something. Justification for the rise of keys is not good enough, and the community is ignorant in not acknowledging it. There are so many things that are wrong in this economy, yet people just ignore it.
You expect people to post thousands upon thousands of links? That's silly.
Yes, I expect people to post thousands upon thousands of links because the amount of sellers listed only represents a tiny, miniscule portion of the market, this doesn't represent everyone selling keys.
Do you honestly think people will have time to go through and verify every single link? The market would change irregardless of what backpack.tf reports. By the time a key suggestion would be approved, the market would've already moved on. It's an ineffective way to price items.
Admins don't care. This isn't about your opinion or what you think. If there is proof, and it's a valid amount it goes. Stop whining and deal with it.
Stop upping currencies, damnit!
Cow want's to see the world burn, 3 key price suggestion in about a week and they all passed lol
Pyro : "MMmmmph Mmph"
Pyro translated : "I want to burn evrything in TF2 economy"
They all were closed because other suggestion were accepted. But this time, it will be mine !
BURN IN HELL
lmao <3 your doing a great job
Upvote, good proof
Thats good proof?
Not enough proof, also buds are rising. I mean there are 900,000 keys in existence according to backpack.tf ya know. The inflation shouldn't be that extreme in accordance to the 4.5 million refined.
TF2Finance --> 1 key = 17 ref [url]http://tf2finance.com/keys/[/url]
Trade.tf price is 16.33.
I don't understand where are we going exactly? I started when keys price are stable, atleast for month to month but now its price change in days, if today its price is 17 ref tht means you will find it easily for 18 ref, why day by day we making its price high and high? ALas!
I just wish that People would realize what is happening. People are ALWAYS gonna Try to maximize profit, so people are ALWAYS gonna sell Keys for more than BP.tf Price. There is no hope ladies and gentlemen. Just wait for TF2 to die, then start trading again. Thats my plan.
So, is someone want to loose 10 ref and sell his key for 7 ref ? no. Thats the problem.
But..if tf2 dies, then doesnt it mean that trading would have no meaning ?
nice plan. i agree
If a lot (and i mean A LOT) of people started selling keys for less then bp.tf price, then people would up the price so much and maybe ( just MAYBE) keys would start to fall in price. But the people complaining about the price are still buying and selling at bp.tf price, so its their fault.
Unfortunately people want to make profit from keys so they are selling always higher than bp.tf price. We can stop this, but we need A LOT OF people selling keys LOWER than bp.tf price. And by a lot of i mean at least 50% of key sellers. And you need to convince them to lose profit. That is impossible.
There is a way, Im not a fanatic at economy nor do I know alot about it but, I HAVE A PLAN! Im sure most people have heard of people buying trading cards for scrap, and then selling it on to the market for profit in SPENDABLE MONEY. This means that if we can somehow make that a stable price then scrap, which is relative to refined, can be made worth more... AND THUS RAISING THE PRICE OF REF! And lowering the price of keys :D. Also if enough people do this correctly, this makes alot of profit, meaning that you can buy a key for spending 6 ref!!!! thats what I do anyway. i hope this helps! Thanks!
I see only 2 possible solutions:
1. it's described above
2. we can write to valve and convince them to sell refined metal at mann co. store so they can determinate the price of ref. if ref was $0.25 and key was $2,50, key would be always 10 ref (0,25 * 10= 2,50), but i don't think they would do this
Why would people accept cotton when they could have silk just as easily?
Alright quit whining about the economy. You won't stop it. The admins don't care. Talk to the people who overprice their keys. I mean deal with it stop being little kids.
Cooldown, its easy to buy keys for 17 ref, calm down
Unless the price has changed by 0.33 refined or greater.
Or if you do not agree with the last change, you may suggest to revert back with supporting proof and arguments.
the suggestion is valid because its changing by atleast .33
I don't see why people don't just buy keys from the store anymore.
Yet they complain when they can't get enough free metals to buy them.
3 days cooldown? wot.
all right, thanks for the information.
some people are gonna be rich
20 refs baby. Upmotorboat
1. is cooldown still a thing?
2. dosen't refined need a decrease in value since keys are 2.69 in USD?
3.how much have keys increased in refined this month???
either way you got the proof, and you got my upboat ^_^
Needs more proof.
Good proof, upduck.
Can you not do this?
I'd like to point out that at the current backpack.tf value on refined metal ($0.16), keys are currently worth $2.67 - $2.72, and if this suggestion gets passed, they will be worth $2.72 - $2.77. Probably need to update refined metal prices.
I HAVENT BEEN ON TF2 FOR A WHILE. can anyone tell me why keys are selling for over $2.50 on the market? sometimes even hitting $2.90? And why has the price of key in ref tripled while i was gone?
this economy like -,- they lower the ref price then raise key price -,- it will better old price ref 0.25 dollar , key 7 ref and earbuds 19 keys
If you want to sell me some keys at 7 ref, be my guest.
I remember WAY back when this financial fiasco started, and in my trading infancy...
Keys were 2.33 ref.
Buds were 27 keys.
Ref was $0.40.
It's like it was only yesterday.
I wonder how many key sales < the suggested price happen solely on the Classifieds and they go unnoticed.
If they happen so quick we don't see them, that would make them quicksells, indicating the need for a rise in price.
key is already too expensive. I don't want to pay 20 ref for 1 key.
quick question. if refined isnt as valuable why arent craft hats rising?
It depends on the hat.
craft hat still cost the same amount of ref to craft
"Hello ! Hope i'm doing great."
What's wrong ?
I think it's a reference to Plaxorous, who always says "Hello, everyone! Hope you are all doing great!" on every suggestion.
He's also the guy who you see quite often trying to raise key prices and lower ref prices. With good proof too.
I see what u did there, suggestor. I see it.
Great im just waiting for it to go to 30 ref .
Tf2 trading is succesufully dying.
Out of all my years in Tf2- Since the birth ti'll right now - have not seen such greed between rich and poor. The rich just want to increase the value of their Bp, and making their Character look fancy while the low end player that don't buy keys and just play by the drop system are struggling to make their characters look cool for them, not for the public; Furthermore, me as a deep low end player buys keys once or twice a year- but yet still struggle. I barely make it to have classy Scout and Sniper By random drops, hence those were my happiest moments. The Greed from buds have rolled down to the people who possessed keys. The TF2 Economy will crash- just like FIFA UT and Elder Scrolls online-why because the Rich had the best and only cared for themselves and raised prices *EXTREMELY HIGH* and thus made the poor or, should i say beginners, impossible to make or do what they want without spending major money on the game. People with these Keys are still not happy with the things they have- it's just like real life- they want more and more Keys (Irl= money) Take a look at the Beginners/ Poor, were happy with the things we have and we work very hard for the things we want; we also want to keep up with this market, but now it is impossible without spending rl money in order to get keys and sell them. We now can't use the drop system as a way to keep up with the market because the Drop system only grants us 10 hours of "Competitive play" that grants us Items. Not Everyone find hats/misc every week from this drop system. Ultimately this economic of this games is no longer community friendly -as in everyone has a chance to get what they want - and thus to be successful in this game is to waste Tons of money on the game in order to get what you want. Of course 2.49$ may not seem much for the Rich , but as a low end player, that seem a lot especially if your buying 6 or more keys.
Some type of inflation is ok but within the last month the Daily inflation rate has reach an astonishing rate at a 0.06% the overall inflation rate is 1.34 -from Dec.4.2014 to Dec28.2014 - Its more than the U.S's inflation rate, its Half than ecuador.
You guys can argue with me using your Greed and money and statistics, but my point stands firm. It's not a good thing to have big gap. Sometime bad is going to happen within this Economy and i don't what it is............ and i hope it never comes because it will be such a disaster.
*Not trying to offend, just stating what is true and what I see*
best coment eu
The inflation shouldn't even be that extreme. There is real inflation and there is fake inflation a.k.a. greed. Good comment by the way. If there was a real key price at the moment, it should be at 5.33 - 6 refined. It's just a ratio, but 900,000 keys over 4,500,000 refined is about 6 overall.
Pretty much the only use for refined is crafting hats. Since that isn't very useful, keys have more buying power, thus their price increase.
And that's why I sold all my stranges for cash and only stayed with the normal welps, cuz I ain't have time to gather 17refs for 1 ****in' key, for the rest, good luck
too much let this cool down m8 and we increase bud people are increasing them i sold a bud for a 1.1 bud unusual.
As long as the earbud go up, key should as well. good proof upvote
you guys keep boosting up the price for key and you don't realise your mistakes, ofcourse people sell and buy for more than it is worth BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS BOOSTING THE PRICE so the smart ones will buy them because they know that the dumb ones will keep boosting the price up to a point it becames ridiculusly high. Ofc this favors no one because you can literaly sell hats that are worth 2/3 ref in the marker for like 50 cents (in profit) which is almost 1/4 of a key. The way you are building this they price of keys will keep going up till you realise what's happening. Let's analyse scrapbanking and hatbanking, just because people sell 1.33 hats and 1 scrap wepons, did that makes you chage the prices and put all wepons worthing 1 scrap and all craftable hat worthing 1 ref? NO BECAUSE IT'S STUPID. so stop raising the price of keys like dumbs.... stop ruining this community. A hat worthed 20€ in my time now not even 10 cents.... amazing!
Dont hear what they say man . Keys will go up MUHAHAAHAH . Let the hatin' begin
I like how the price of keys in metal is more than 2.50.....
That's why we have to constantly drop the ref prices too
Mann these prices are getting crazier and crazier, does anyone know why? Surely it's more than just people selling for more than the regular price just to get a profit, right?
Keep on raseing them amen!!!!!
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, remember when people could craft drops into metal and get a key in about 2 weeks?
KEYS SHOULD GO BACK TO 8 REF SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE A CHANCE OF BUYING THEM. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THEM GOING UP?
Sun of a Beach.
Jeez, the guy who sold 20 at 17.66. I personally am not trading ref to keys anymore. They're rising faster than I can collect metal.
Anyways, the proof looks solid. Upvote.
Not enough proof. Downvoted.
I have seen currency suggestions with much more proof to support their price range in the past (mostly when keys were < 10 ref). This is not one of them.
just saying i wnat to wuit this game now
but still not that much proof so down vote or any good proof to me
Getting warned for Saying the truth within Tf2 Economy -Saying what is true from our point of view, from the poor/Beginner- These comments may be irrelevant to the Voting but it's the truth as for the the Suggestion
Down vote because of Cool down effect and i feel like there is like a lack of proof
Rip f2p trading.
Later I think ref needs a drop :P current price in ref is $2.67 the new one ( If this gets accepted is $2.75 ) so ref needs to drop :P anyway not enough proof for main currency down vote....
No, No more upprice dudes!
By the way, I get your Gaben reference! Upvote for good proof, good joke... I like this guy! He's funny!
For those who don't get the joke...
Welcome to Team Fortress 2. After 9 years in development, hopefully, it will have been worth the wait.
Welcome to Keys upprice 2. After 1 month of rising, hope(fully,) they are expensive.
Omg the last tf2outpost is from me xD (closed i maded new one)
by the end of January i GUARANTEE that keys will be over 22 refined
rest in pepperonis TF2 economy
Ugh, keys need to go down in price. Keys have nearly tripled in price since i was last playing tf2.
I hate backpack.tf now...
At this point it is not possible to get enough ref by playing to buy a key, because it takes about 2 weeks to get a ref, and in 2 weeks the price is pretty much guaranteed to have risen by at least a ref. Anyways, the evidence looks good, upgoat.
Backpack.tf is getting every time more and more like north korea's "democracy". If you say something any of the moderators don't like, you'll get warned and eventually banned forever
2011's price of keys
22 x 2.50 = 56.1 ref
13 x 17.33 = 225.29
Congratulations, Backpack.tf and all of its associates have allowed you to pay 32 dollars for ~225.29 hats.
Wow. To think keys used to be 4 ref. DESTROY THE ECONOMY!!! UP THE PRICE!!!!!
STOP DOING THIS !! KEYS SHOULD FALL NO RISE !!
Why are keys going up?? What is the point besides people to make hella profit... I mean you can buy keys in the mann co. store, its not rare....
Staph ;-; pls
Are you all freakin' stupid? You have brought the price for keys up more than double since just before halloween. Do you want to destroy tf2? Screw how much keys are selling for, you can't only think of market value, you have to think of how your decisions will effect the econmoy and the community. They are only going to go up u til this whole market falls through. Eventually TF2 will have an economy worse than pre-WW2 Germany. If things get any worse people will stop playing TF2 and the money you are all pouring into the game will just shrivel up and die. You need to stop voting these prices up and start voting them down, or TF2 will ide.,
Backpack.tf reports on prices. It does not set them. It has tried to have a "set" price for keys in the past, and that just hasn't worked. Keys went up in price anyway.
Price should be higher, ppl are buyin keys for 17.44 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24357808
then they will buy for 18 ref if this goes up
Dont like the keys rising; but good proof. Upvote
the proof doesnt matter
Yes, yes it does.
Seems all good, Upvote
its not all right this is higher than the mann co store price if you calculate the price for ref
Shaddap! If this rises then so will metal.
of it rises to 17 ref then people will start buying at 18 ref, this is higher than the mann co store price you idiots
this is stupid you can get keys for 2.49 in game
does anyone else realize the price is higher than 2.49 now?
It will be interesting on the state of the TF2 economy if keys keeps rising...
Indeed. Time to get the popcorn and soda ready for the rage.
Did I really get a warning for voicing my opinion on what I think is due to happen and giving constructive criticism explaining that the proof is good, which is actually outlined directly in the rules to be good while I see people left and right putting in comments that directly break the rules? Wow. Okay then. BUT again, like I said, "good proof, upvote" but would like to see some unsolds.
Let's not crash the market please
why make it go up even when its so expensive
I wonder who would buy a key for 17 ref
Anyone who wants a key and wants to purchase it in ref
why would you give 17 ref for a key though
People pay what people are willing to pay for an item, regardless of its value to other people
it's outrageous that keys have doubled in price within a month for no reason
There has been a rise of how much there is in the game since the last few months, check for yourself:
damn, why is ref so useless. 85000 new ref
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2014 Keys = 17 ref
2015 Keys = 120.33 ref
BTW 7.33 ref was the best price for keys!
seriously this NEEDS to stop
Can you guys drop the key price. is too expensive or actually is making trading harder.
This is messed up! :/
Remember when keys were 9 ref? Yeah me nether :/
Dude if you have alot of keys does'nt mean making the keys WAY HIGHER then 16 ref
Why BackPack tf just make keys 7 ref again!
The economy will die at keys=20 keys we need to get them back to 4 ref each or the economy will die unusuals and buds will be worth **** all and say good bye to trading but don't worry overwatch is here so if you wanna ruin this game completely so no one will play it not even traders keep killing the economy - its called digging your own grave have fun :)
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Something i do not understand is that keys are being sold for more then thy are worth. 1 ref is 16 cents. Keys sell for an average of 2.34 to 2.38 dollars on the SCM. Mathematically speaking, that is about 14 ref. So by selling them for more, that's more the their value in refined.