Price Suggestion
~2.17 ref
Unique Secret Saxton
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This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed by Puddilicious.

There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value. However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item. Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.

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Santa Christ came early this year!


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24137642 - Sold for 1 ref without a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24136265 - Sold out of 1 ref without a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24051769 - Had a few buyers at 4 saxtons for 1 key (Saxtons @ 3.55 ref each)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23999829 - Sold 3 saxtons for 1 TOD Ticket (Approx 2 ref per saxton)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23481833 - Offer of 2 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23998951 - Over 100 purchased at 1 ref each


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23819873 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24082746 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23971872 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23972050 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22859276 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24140343 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24132736 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24073868 - Buyer for 1 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23865476 - Buyer for 1.11 refined


Re-suggesting due to SCM also showing 1 ref is common as well.

    This is a very commonly sold item. 2 links (one involving tickets which isn't really ideal) aren't going to cut it. You need to show that 2 refined is a COMMON trade point.

      There aren't that many sales really, not even 1 page on outpost and 4 on classifieds.

        I can tell you this is not so rare that 1 link is enough to capture the majority of the market. If 2 ref is a common trade point, there should be more.

          All the others are in sets, want offers from other games, or are signed by a famous person. Your assumption that these are commonly traded isn't very true. You can buy them in a trade, indefinetely, but the market for them is rather tiny. Only 2 have set prices and are unbumped, the others are selling in bundles.

            My advice would be to gather some links over a few days and then resuggest. This is not an unusual or even a rare uncraft with 1 sale in 2 weeks where pricing off 1 sale is okay. Trade.tf shows ~5-6 sales just in the last 3 days at 1-1.33 ref each. There are sales out there. Time to sell is much less important than the frequency of sales. If an item sells 100 times at 1 ref and 1 time at 2 ref, it should be priced at 1 ref regardless of how fast it sells at 1.


            Also, as an FYI, this is going for ~1-1.33 ref on SCM, which imo is where this should be at.

      Too big of a range for the proof :/ Downvote for now.

        If you really think this is too big, you're going to have a bad time. There are plenty of other suggestions with much larger ranges that pass.

          Anabelle, i think what is being said here is not that the range is too big (theoretically), but the evidence provided doesn't support the range suggested. It's fine to conclude the price needs a bump, and buyers above one are good proof. But there must be enough evidence to support the whole range. Cheers, and good luck with your suggestion.

            Range isnt a problem, but basing part of the range off of an offer, and 2 approximations? Now thats what I call edgy

            True, but something about this just makes me cringe.

            Well.

            I am with you that the price could be higher then 1 refined

            But 1-2 refined is a bit high. Better next time try 1.00 - 1.33.

              No proof at 1.33, your range comes from nowhere.

                Yes, I am such a small trader with no idea how economy and those 20+ trading sites and 50+ trading-networks are working.

                You are so glamorous we should all upvote your suggestions without using our brains.


                SORRY, just ate some dog food with extra brain in it --> DOWNVOTE

                  Oh, you're a troll, I see now. Very subtle.

                    Well, is it trolling if I answer you within a price voting with a good meaned suggestion about this price voting. I think not.

                    If you think this system is working in your hate-style, you will see the results on all your actions.

                    Behave gentle and just do realistic price suggestions and you will get a gentle-answer and realistic upvotes about your suggestions.


                    But you dont want to learn. You more behave like a defiant child.


                    Back to topic. Your suggestion has not enough proofs and I can sell 1000x secret saxton.

                    Why should I be against an upvote? I could make more money!

                    Because it is not the price and not the value for secret saxton at this point.


                    Btw troll suggestions getting a lot of troll answers. Maybe that is the reason why you call any answer you dont want to hear trolling.


                    DOWNVOTED

                      I've seen better trolling from 9-gag.

                        What does this have to do with the voting and your bad proofs?

                        Thanks for the confimation that you are the touchy child.


                        www.tf2wh.com -> 100 of 100 on stock @ 1.06 refined

                        If someone is buying it is refilled within 24 hours.

                          Nothing, just like your replies. I'm just rolling with it.

                            Well, if you would do replies like me there would be content, proofs and things which have to do with this vote.

                            So I dont see anything what you are doing except moaning and trolling, even after I gave you the proof that you are wrong with your range. But you cannot bear it, right? Poor.


                            QUESTION IS OPEN - I GAVE YOU A PROOF OF 100x UNSOLD SECRET SAXTON @ 1.06 REFINED ... and?


                              Did you know here in California, we lost over 11 trillion gallons of water in the past 3 years? Droughts are crazy.

              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24148437 - Sold several for 2 refined each

                Now that every premium player will get a free Secret Saxton, I don't see this being accurate whatsoever.

                  Oh boy.

                  Free Saxtons.

                  Not going to go well with this price.