This suggestion was marked as bad evidence and closed
by neverclever.
There should always be enough evidence to back up the new proposed value.
However, it appears that the evidence is not strong enough, or cherry-picked
in a way that does not represent the actual market value of the item.
Therefore, this suggestion has been closed.
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I agree with other comments--you do not have enough evidence to support the low end of your range.
Further, several of your "unsold" 4.66s have sold. While this may need a decrease, there is not enough evidence here to justify such a large one.
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Many of the trades on outpost for this item are poorly bumped and I tried to avoid those trades. If you are skeptic check my proof!
I mean I have 7 Links to support the top range and 5 Links to support the bottom range. The last accepted suggestion for this item had 7 Links supporting the current price, had basically the same number of unsolds, and had two quicksells.
So 12 Links to support my suggestion is not enough?
Ask yourself, Should the price stay the same, but can you support your opinion with proof? If so please share
Not enough proof for low-end
Really.....................?
Still not enough. 4.66-4.33 would've been better
I don't think so, look at all of the unsolds and how old all of them are. Some people are selling at 4.66 Ref, but they're unsuccessful, old, and unsold.
4.66 does not influence the price of 4.33...
Do you have proof to support the upper end of your suggestion? because I have 16 unsold links as counter proof.
I'm talking about changing the Range to 4.66-4.33 -_-
or 4.33 solid -_-
THIS NEEDS A DROP, but this range is not suitable -_-
I was thinking about 4.33 Solid, but I know there would be many people complaining that there should be a range. 4.33-4.66, or 4-4.33 or even 4-4.66.
I really don't know where this is going to end up because all of the comments have negative scores :/
Only one valid seller on the low end, not enough
Why aren't then other 2 valid? they are selling at the lower price.
Same for 4.33, two of the seller are young and haven't be bumped for hours.
Tried to look up proof before, couldn't find too much sellers below the current :c
the first one is still a seller though
The second one is not even 4 days old, it's 3. but sure its poorly bumped, but it is still a seller
,but aren't solds more powerful than sellers? You can't ignore this fact
Well, its more effective if you wanted to raise the price of an item.
Also, your solds seem like quicksales since they were closed/unbumped on the same day the trade was made.
Through my research I learned that 20% of the anger trades are un-updated (old prices), 30% are unbumped, 5% are strange genuines' , 10% are looking for items/offers, 1% is in sets, and the rest are unsold for weeks.
solds dont help a drop in price.... you can sell anything for less then what its worth... you need unsolds of 4 refined, 4.33 refined, and even more for 4.66 being youre completely diminishing 4.66 from the price. youd need more 4.66's then then 4.33's and more 4.33's then 4's. thats just how it works.
They sold
needs a better range as the other people have stated that you dont have enough proof for the low end.
I mean I have 7 Links to support the top range and 5 Links to support the bottom range. The last accepted suggestion for this item had 7 Links supporting the current price, had basically the same number of unsolds, and had two quicksells.
So 12 Links to support my suggestion is not enough?
and 16 unsolds at current price? I could easily get more of these.
Wow every comment has negatives. Are we all wrong?
I have been wondering that too, are you all wrong? But IMO you don't have enough proof for 4 ref
You won't get anywhere from disliking everyone's comments, OP.
They're providing constructive criticism.
I don't dislike any of the comments of the people I'm talking to, that's just mean. Other people should decide if they are to like or dislike a comment.
Trolls be like: "You get a dislike and you get a dislike! Everyone gets a dislike!!"
and back to what's relevant, drop needed, but not this. downboat
Both the low end proofs were sold as quicksells...
Many of the trades on outpost for this item are poorly bumped and I tried to avoid those trades. If you are skeptic check my proof!
2 Month old price
Sold at 4.33 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22302214
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22274856
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22202948
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22199867
Sold at 4 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22297821
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22296645
Selling at 4.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22296153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22295692
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21585970
Selling at 4 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22302863
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21986708
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238505
Unsold at 4.66 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22111476 . 1 Week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22244117 3 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21883119 2 Weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22256165 2 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22233508 3 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22236997 3 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22263203 2 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22044645 1 Week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22233545 3 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22094016 1 Week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21341007 1 Month
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22230728 3 Days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22115932 1 Week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21920357 2 Weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21346851 1 Month
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22092566 1 Week poorly bumped
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5 @ 4.33 Ref
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I mean I have 7 Links to support the top range and 5 Links to support the bottom range. The last accepted suggestion for this item had 7 Links supporting the current price, had basically the same number of unsolds, and had two quicksells.
So 12 Links to support my suggestion is not enough?
Ask yourself, Should the price stay the same, but can you support your opinion with proof? If so please share
Not enough proof for low-end
Really.....................?
Still not enough. 4.66-4.33 would've been better
I don't think so, look at all of the unsolds and how old all of them are. Some people are selling at 4.66 Ref, but they're unsuccessful, old, and unsold.
4.66 does not influence the price of 4.33...
Do you have proof to support the upper end of your suggestion? because I have 16 unsold links as counter proof.
I'm talking about changing the Range to 4.66-4.33 -_-
or 4.33 solid -_-
THIS NEEDS A DROP, but this range is not suitable -_-
I was thinking about 4.33 Solid, but I know there would be many people complaining that there should be a range. 4.33-4.66, or 4-4.33 or even 4-4.66.
I really don't know where this is going to end up because all of the comments have negative scores :/
Only one valid seller on the low end, not enough
Why aren't then other 2 valid? they are selling at the lower price.
I see the problem.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22302863 - Just created, in other words "too young" as a valid trade
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22238505 - this was only bumped two hours after created, unbumped for 4-5 days.
Same for 4.33, two of the seller are young and haven't be bumped for hours.
Tried to look up proof before, couldn't find too much sellers below the current :c
the first one is still a seller though
The second one is not even 4 days old, it's 3. but sure its poorly bumped, but it is still a seller
,but aren't solds more powerful than sellers? You can't ignore this fact
Well, its more effective if you wanted to raise the price of an item.
Also, your solds seem like quicksales since they were closed/unbumped on the same day the trade was made.
Through my research I learned that 20% of the anger trades are un-updated (old prices), 30% are unbumped, 5% are strange genuines' , 10% are looking for items/offers, 1% is in sets, and the rest are unsold for weeks.
solds dont help a drop in price.... you can sell anything for less then what its worth... you need unsolds of 4 refined, 4.33 refined, and even more for 4.66 being youre completely diminishing 4.66 from the price. youd need more 4.66's then then 4.33's and more 4.33's then 4's. thats just how it works.
They sold
needs a better range as the other people have stated that you dont have enough proof for the low end.
I mean I have 7 Links to support the top range and 5 Links to support the bottom range. The last accepted suggestion for this item had 7 Links supporting the current price, had basically the same number of unsolds, and had two quicksells.
So 12 Links to support my suggestion is not enough?
and 16 unsolds at current price? I could easily get more of these.
Wow every comment has negatives. Are we all wrong?
I have been wondering that too, are you all wrong? But IMO you don't have enough proof for 4 ref
You won't get anywhere from disliking everyone's comments, OP.
They're providing constructive criticism.
I don't dislike any of the comments of the people I'm talking to, that's just mean. Other people should decide if they are to like or dislike a comment.
Trolls be like: "You get a dislike and you get a dislike! Everyone gets a dislike!!"
and back to what's relevant, drop needed, but not this. downboat
Both the low end proofs were sold as quicksells...