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Resuggest because there are so many 1.33 quick-buyers yet so many 1.66 sales happened.


Brothers! It's starting again!

Just wake up and see all of my suggestions got closed and the game rules have changed but at least I see this! I don't need you guys to copy/paste my suggestion without giving me credits anymore, haha!


Quick-sold for 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517749

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514613

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514352

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514189

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513888

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511637

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511524

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20510587

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20510527

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20509203

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20509008

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508622

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20507338

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506556

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506426

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20505873

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504518

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504481

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20500944

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20495635

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20490413

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20489401

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474268

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513728

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20459767

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20512942

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20468381

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451949

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20491663

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431018

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20494736


Sold for 1.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20515468

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513854

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511128

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20509464 (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520552627)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20501359

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20488003

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464737

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438389

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431566

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428537

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20515053

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20446964

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436548

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20435632

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428537

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20505294

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20434482 (This guy gets it :3)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439300

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432610

http://www.trade.tf/trade/523857871

http://www.trade.tf/trade/524005420


Sold for higher than 1.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17117766 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438389 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518959 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17117766 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428537 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20435632 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442353 (1.55)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/523793553 (1.55)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/523910454 (1.55)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/523793649 (1.55)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506885 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20471437 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20499160 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20481477 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20487814 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445534 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451797 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449689 (1.66)

http://www.trade.tf/trade/523917389 (1.66)


Buyers (The infamous wall-ol-proof with little change, who the hell said that half of them had said "no robo hat" anyway?)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20497842 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473284 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452361 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20497447 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20490513 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20463290 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20489544 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20412445 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464959 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20459148 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20455480 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447013 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506475 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516679 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20490513 (1.44)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511181 (1.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20488379 (1.77)


Conclusion: Bread Hype! It's clearly seen that we need a range, not a price flat.

#Roadto1.66

Will update more proof

Feel free to counter / support my proofs.

    Why would anyone pay more than 1.50 refined for a craft hat? Don't they know they can craft a hat using 3 Refined Metals?

        Well, Bread Box Hype so people buy hats to open the box, not craft hats.

          That does seem to be where this demand is coming from.

            Everything will go back to normal after July the 9th when Bread Boxes will become unavailable to be crafted.

              Not so sure about that. Due to the update, the supply of those hats will go down, making those craft hats rare. They maybe stable after the hype.

              That's my predict.

                These hats are 1.33 because not many people wear them and their only use is crafting. I don't think they will remain at high price for too long because of no use.

                  If their only use is for crafting, why do some people use them as a currency standard?

                    because the craft recipe for hats is either 3 ref or rebuilding 2 hats, and what you know people like crafting so saving a rec means they take the time to go buy a hat from whatever site or server they use

                      Let me state again: No one buys craft hats to rebuild hats. People buy hats to create Bread Boxes so it doesn't matter how much ref it costs to make hats.

                        It's true. But like I said above, it's going to change after expiration of Bread Box crafting recipe.

            not everyone is so lucky to craft the desired hat at once. when ppl aim for a specific craftable hat they are willing to pay more than just 3 ref in a some cases they pay keys.

            Also this is very general I mean cmmon is a request from scrap.tf or what guys?

              1 Hat = 3 Refs

              2 Hats = 3.33 Refs (1.66 per hat)


              So... How this works? Anyway, this suggestion with the primary proof aren't so good, but the extra-proof is excellent. Upvoting this.

              Because they don't want to craft the hats together...?

                Oh.. now it all makes sense. You sir must have a finger in this...

                what is logic

                    To wear it.

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517749 < You put this link on "Quick-sold for 1.33" He DON'T SOLD man.

                      DIDN'T, not DON'T

                      Steam was having problem when he got a buyer. Now there is even a guy who offered 1.55 for that Ellis Cap.

                      Still solid.

                    I sold 20 craft hats for 4 keys yesterday, upvote from me

                    holeh crep

                    gg guys gg

                      opens classifieds... sees soooo many sellers at 1.33 you cant dismiss all these. and alos you cant call 1.33 a quicksell when 1.44 generally takes just as long to sell. they both sell fast, if backpack.tf went as far to make a craft hat a currency item then it is just a norm for currency items to sell within minutes, take keys or buds for example. Sorry downvote

                        I am pretty sure all of them are sold, if not all almost. Classifieds do not get deleted until or unless the person who opened it deletes it or someone visits their backpack.

                        I feel like 1.33 to 1.66 would be the ideal range, but in the end, I do agree, the price needs to change one way or another.

                          Remember when hats dropped to 1.11?

                            All craft hats were dropping to 1.11 - 1.22 before the update. x_x

                            I completely remove 1.33 because there are so many buyers at both 1.33 and 1.44. If you check Outpost, even 1.44 buyers overpowers 1.33 ones.

                              just because there are buyers doesnt automatically mean that it should be excluded from range.

                                If I have plenty of 1.44 buyers, why should I keep 1.33 in the range?

                                Use logic please.

                                  Because most of yours solds are also 1.33

                                    And all of them are sold in less than a day (hell, even 5 minutes), which even proves that 1.33 shouldn't belong to the range.

                                      10-20min not quicksell for an item of such high demand.

                                      Look at the conga, you get like 10 people adding you at once on the first day. I know I did. Not exactly a quicksale because it's mostly people wanting it and actually wanting to use it and not people looking for a discount. But then again, conga op.

                            This is confusing. Does this count for all non special hats or...


                            curse u bread box

                              it just rose because of the bread box. it will soon be sold at 1.33 again soon.

                                Bread box causes hype, making craft hats's quantity go down => Less supply => Hats maybe stable even after the hype.

                                  bread is cancer. how does cancer get cancer?

                                    Well, bread managed to get Tumours when they went through Teleporters....


                                    On topic: Pure hype has fuelled the (temporary) item hike. Once the breadboxes are no longer craftable, the price will fall again. Don't even think it's worth it to change the price for a fortnight when the price will inevitably fall back to 1.33 and below afterwords.

                                I didn't even know this existed as a listed price....

                                  It's new due to the fact that we actually have to have individual proof to raise each hat rather standardised proof of people buying "any craft hat".

                                    It's new because mods want to stop me and a lot of people who use my suggestion without giving me credits from farming rep.

                                    Upvote! Sold 3 Ellis Caps for 1.66 each in like 5 minutes.

                                    http://imgur.com/ZAxfsOG

                                        Why would you buy a craft hat for 1.66? you can craft for 3 ref?

                                        1.66+1.66=3.33

                                        just stupid. People are gunna do what they wanna do

                                            Well, Bread Box Hype so people buy hats to open the box, not craft hats.

                                              so according to you its better to:

                                              a) craft 1 hat for 3 ref than

                                              b) to buy 1 for 1.66 ref


                                              because yes you dont need that 1.33 you have by choosing the b option


                                              yeah tottaly and every bread box according to you can cost you just 9 ref when you could craft it for 4.99 choosing the b)option.

                                              why wouldnt i thought of that.thanks!

                                              Do you want to set the price of 500 hats at once or wtf?

                                                I own a website where you can buy and sell craft hats, and yes they are going away like bread! +1

                                                    look ehm,you are making a price for all hats in general


                                                    you need people buying any hat for >1.55 to put it in the range

                                                    here you just provide proof that some hats are worth more than a crafthat

                                                    1.44 would be the most logical suggestion right now


                                                    edit: corrected

                                                      I'm making price for every craft hats which was 1.33 previously.

                                                      Or if I'm not wrong, I'm making currency suggestion.

                                                      Now every craft hats are same now.

                                                      Detail: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/meetthestats/announcements/detail/1388547564255876396

                                                      The more you know.

                                                      And I don't need 1.55 buyers.

                                                        hats look different. some are more liked than others

                                                        for example

                                                        a robo hat is not liked,thus people will get rid of it for 1.44 ref to a crafthat buyer

                                                        where as the cloud crasher for example,had demand at 1.66 and rose in price (1.33-1.66)


                                                        you are basically pricing the shitty robo hat on the fact that otther hats sell for higher


                                                        edit: i'm just saying,robo hats aren't actually shitty <.<.<.<.<.<<.

                                                          They are all the same now. All of them now works as currency.

                                                          Did you even read the link I gave?

                                                            they aren't the same

                                                            sorry for the way i'll say. but use your head


                                                            for example. the marauder isn't a crafthat cuz it's 1.66 ? and if the currency gets to 1.66 it'll become one ?

                                                            so it has a separate price,until it gets joined to the crafthat pile ?


                                                            there is a clear difference between

                                                            i'll buy any hat for 1.44

                                                            and

                                                            i want that specific hat for 1.66

                                                            thus it's called a "random hat currency"

                                                              Use your head, please.

                                                              When I say "craft hat", I mean those hat which were previously 1.33.

                                                              Now, the minimum price of craft hats (as backpack said) is 1.33. No exception.

                                                                exactly, that's why i said it should be 1.44 flat,because there are clearly guys buying ANY hat for 1.44

                                                                but not the range you put... just because some other hats are selling for more than a "random crafthat"


                                                                yeah...

                                                                  Sir, you have just found a hole in the whole craft hat currency system.

                                                                  This is actually what I'm really curious about.

                                                                  Maybe you should go to general forum and tell the mod about this.

                                                                    i'll make a counter suggestion,i started already xd that'll draw the mods attention

                                                      Ive been selling crafthats for 1.66 since the beggining of time. even last year i sold hundreds to one person valued at 1.66 ea for a bud.(If you want proof il upload it)


                                                      (Please note, these sales are just mine alone)


                                                      These are my 1.66 trades.


                                                      http://bazaar.tf/trade/789362


                                                      Please note, ive sold MANY without comments, I kept a large stock and encouraged people to add me. If you honestly need me to upload historyu I can. I've been selling craft hats 1.66 for literally almost a year and a half. The thing is "craft hats, are not seen as "craft hats" people actually wear them, no longer making them a craft hat. Making them a misc they need.


                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380218

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380180

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380619

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380435

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380420

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380138

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380090

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380356

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380045

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380017

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17379971

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380335

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380296

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380267

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380644

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380240

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17380116

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072605

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072557

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072529

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072477

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072436

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11767743

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072410

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072378

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072346

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15072303

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11767554

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11767480

                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11767404


                                                      Anyways I've been doing these for years.. Soo the list goes on and on.. So does my trading history. If you require more proof let me know. Because I've literally done about a thousand easy transactions like this.


                                                      My outpost page: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/27924

                                                        Thank you for the proof but they are too old :P

                                                        Got any recent sales? The one that happened in last 3 days?

                                                          No sorry, i've stopped that business long ago, as you can see im in the unusual business now with my bot :P . But I assure you, if craft hats were selling 1.66 then when metal was worth more, they would sell even easier now. (Please note, these sales are just mine alone)

                                                            Well, that's not how backpack.tf works but thank for your help :)

                                                        More proof!


                                                        Sold for 1.44

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20505294

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20534921

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538223

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506975

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20530485


                                                        Sold for higher

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511965 (2 ref, my god)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20542309 (1.66, sold 4)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20529389 (1.66) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520617347)

                                                        http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10155787 (1.55)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20489102 (1.55)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20531476 (1.55) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520611700)

                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/523793507 (1.55)

                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/523793625 (1.55)


                                                        Notable Buyers (I include 1.33 buyers now to show how easy 1.33 can go)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20173290 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20533743 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20482057 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445261 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445291 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20457509 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514179 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20523169 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518141 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20482057 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519388 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519388 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508433 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20475475 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508428 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20530372 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20499006 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20526632 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453233 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443808 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20539271 (1.33)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506475 (1.44)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511080 (1.44)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20534292 (1.66)

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19048796 (1.66)

                                                        Scrap.tf bot are buying at 1.33 each.

                                                        Meh, gotta sleep, hopefully when I wake up, not a lot of things happens. :P

                                                          Why is 1,33 excluded of the range? Most solds are at that price....

                                                            Because they are quick-sold so it should be excluded, easy.

                                                            And they are not happening a lot now. If you are lucky, you will find a seller who want to sell his hat for 1.33 without being grabbed by other people.

                                                              They're quickselling because of the bread hype, not because of the cheap price. Most of of 1,44 s and 1,55s (and some 1,66s) are also selling quick, but that doesn't mean they should be excluded of the range. I think 1,33 -1,66 would be appropiate.Also, I think we should wait until people start to get down from the hype train to make this suggestion. Hope you understood my point, my english is not that great.

                                                                I make the suggestion because of the hype, you should know.

                                                                And I don't see a lot of 1.33 sales now.

                                                                If you see them, counter-prove me.

                                                                  I bought most of these:

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19688041

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20544651

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20361677 < still selling

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20249563

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20413621 < 1,33 add him and ask him if necessary

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18461256

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20472659 < 1,33 too

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20414372 <1,33 too

                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14957336 < ask if necessary but I bought 2 cones for 1,33 from him


                                                                  They're still going, this is some I found in a few seconds of searching

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19688041 You added him for the hat 9 hours ago, doesn't seem to be active.

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20544651 Out of stock

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20361677 He blocked every buyers, you are not the only one, must be a troll

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20249563 Last bump: 3 days ago, people like him should get on the hype train

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18461256 1.66, thx for support proof!

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20472659 Out of stock long time ago

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20414372 Sold a long time ago

                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14957336 What the? He doesn't even list the price

                                                                    Basically, your counter proof include 1 proof that supports me, 1 proof that is wierd, the rest are invalid.

                                                                      Gotta go, do not expect more from me till tomorrow, if you need more counter proof, I will deliver

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20338666

                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20398926

                                                                      http://s22.postimg.org/ffzz9jccx/class1.jpg < Classifieds part 1

                                                                      http://s22.postimg.org/q43q8dmc1/class2.jpg < classifieds part 2

                                                                      EDIT: wth? I literally just bought one from the guy you said he was out of stock, the "sold a long time ago" is still selling. And I solved my situation with the guy who blocked me, he thought I was one of those outpost bots.


                                                                      Also, please work on your manners, most of the stuff you say is uncalled for.

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20338666 Unbump

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20398926 Unbump

                                                                        Quote from =[pG]=™ ϟPlaxorøus☢: I am pretty sure all of them are sold, if not all almost. Classifieds do not get deleted until or unless the person who opened it deletes it or someone visits their backpack.

                                                                        So your classified listing proof are invalid. And most of them are poorly bumped, too.

                                                                        And the http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20472659: you bought from him, so basically, it is sold, right? You added him 1 day ago, exactly when the hype grew. Concident? I think not.

                                                                        And http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20544651 , totally a quick-sell and out of stock. He only had 2 1.33 hats and all were sold. And the trade started 11 hours ago and you commented below "add" 11 hours ago too. Not a quick-sell? I think not.

                                                                        And I do believe there is no problem with my manner, too.

                                                                        Btw, thank a lot for providing that 1.33 is quick-sell :)

                                                                          "You added him 1 day ago, exactly when the hype grew. Concident? I think not." The update was a few days ago, the hype started at the 19th, so stop talking nonsence just to make me look bad. You haven't even checked the classifieds, you just went straight out and told me they were all sold out. I just added 2 of the guys from the class. and bought the hats for 1,33. You didn't even do research, at all. I will just stop posting here, I think I will have a better discussion with a wall. And again, keep working on your manners, it's almost like you try to be rude every time you can, very disrespectful.

                                                                            First of all, there is no problem about my manner. I am not even rude or insult you. All I do is pointing that your proof are bad. If I'm rude with you, prove it instead of just saying.

                                                                            Secondly, when the update was there, it took some more days for the hype to start.

                                                                            After all of my proof and you said I hadn't done any researchs? GG, would debate again. Classifieds ain't reliable, as =[pG]=™ ϟPlaxorøus☢ said.

                                                                            Any 1.33 are quick-sold and don't deserve to belong in the range.

                                                                            And I guess at least you can go and bully your wall cowardly instead of having an real argument with people who have brains.

                                                                            You are bad and you should feel bad for bullying the poor wall.

                                                                            And finally, YOU are the one who need to work on the manner, not me (at least I'm educated, not sure about you but I guess not)

                                                                            If you are a real man, stop it, add me and talk about it. This is not a place for a personal fight.

                                                                            Oh, and you haven't counter-proved me with solid proof yet. Go and do some research, now!

                                                                              Quite insulting, calling me uneducated, I will go ahead and ignore it for the sake of the discussion.

                                                                              I was telling you to be more polite if possible because, at least in my culture, is really rude to "ridicule" people's arguments during a discussion, even if it's human nature. It's even worst than the use of irony.

                                                                              You keep quoting =[pG]=™ ϟPlaxorøus☢, is he a bp.tf genius that I'm not aware of? Why should we use his argument in our discussion?

                                                                              Reading on, we can see, once again, the attempt to ridicule the saying I used in my post.

                                                                              I will add you, but why haven't you yet? Are you "not a real man" either?

                                                                              I told you you haven't done research on the classifieds, which you haven't, since for some reason you find them irrelevant (but is still used in other suggestions as proof). I didn't say you haven't done research in the topic of hat price, do not put words in my mouth, that really impolite too.

                                                                                When a sale occurs in Classifieds it does not get removed instantly, either you have to remove it or someone has to visit your backpack and then it gets removed automatically, otherwise it has to be manually removed if no one visits your backpack thus Classifieds are not considered solid proof and taken as support proof. ^.^


                                                                                Also, whats wrong with quoting someone else?

                                                                                  =[pG]=™ ϟPlaxorøus☢ has spoken what I want to say so I don't need to comment about that any more.

                                                                                  And adding me when I'm offline sure means I'm a coward.

                                                                                  GG, would talk again.

                                                                Anyone one who buys a craft hat for above 1.33 is an idiot. People just don't understand the concept of being patient and that you don't need to make .33 profit on everything. Buy craft hats at 1.22 and sell them for 1.33. There should not even be a listing for craft hats everyone knows the price.

                                                                  Did you even have any ideas what is happening? People are no longer buying craft hats for crafting hats anymore. They are buying them in order to open Bread Box.

                                                                    What's gonna happen is that the craft hats will go up and not come back down.

                                                                      Maybe. Here is my theory: Due to the update, the supply of those hats will go down, making those craft hats rare. They maybe stable after the hype.

                                                                      Craft hats are the new keys. But this will calm down after the boxes expire.

                                                                        As a hat buyer/bread box maker that frequents trade servers, I'm gonna have to disagree. It's so easy to get a craft hat for 1.11-1.33.

                                                                          Don't just say, give us proof.

                                                                          1.33 is QS now so it shouldn't belong in the range.

                                                                          They even go faster than a 8-ref key.

                                                                          Oh please don't do this. Bptf already changed key prices so drastically and now craft hats?! Just leave it at 1.33 please, we need SOME consistency in currency, please!

                                                                            No.

                                                                            You want keys to go down? Then this is one of the ways to make them go down.

                                                                            Deal with it.

                                                                            And all for the accurate price of the market.

                                                                              the reason theyre so high atm is cuz evryone wants to craft breadboxes, not because thats a real price of craft hats. why dont you wait till the update is over and the hype is gone

                                                                                The point of backpack.tf is to record common current prices of the items.

                                                                                Let me show you the key words: current.

                                                                                Any questions?

                                                                                  I have a feeling the inertia from the price rise is gonna leave hat owners continuing to sell hats at 1.66 because of this, and this will end up as a permanent price

                                                                                    You're forgetting one fact that the craft hats are also going down in supply for now. Until or unless people start to craft more hats by metals, yes that maybe the permanent price for now. There is no reason for anyone to be scared/panicked about this, prices are bound to change for anything/any item.

                                                                                      If they can still sell it for that price, I don't see any problems with the permanent price.

                                                                                support your point of view therefore downvote!

                                                                              Fuck, you :D

                                                                                I don't understand what you want to say so meh.

                                                                                  Just want to throw a thanks for constantly updating and showing/adding more proofs. What you are doing is helping the suggestion a lot. ^.^

                                                                                Craft hats are going up! Wait that means that they will be more expensive. Could this mean? You need refined metal to get hats....hats are getting more expensive....Metal goes up and...keys go downnnn....Has the day finally arrived?

                                                                                There's really no point in raising the price for a random craft hat... 1.33 ref is pretty much the standard price out there, considering Scrap.tf's hat banking system, and all the craftable hats are priced there as 1.33. If you bump the price up here, buyers and sellers alike will just go banking there...

                                                                                  Before saying something like this, might want to take a look at the market. Also, I will quote myself again...


                                                                                  "You're forgetting one fact that the craft hats are also going down in supply for now. Until or unless people start to craft more hats by metals, yes that maybe the permanent price for now. There is no reason for anyone to be scared/panicked about this, prices are bound to change for anything/any item."

                                                                                    Scrap.tf is charging 1.88 per hat and paying 1.55.


                                                                                    As soon as breadboxes are gone these prices will revert.


                                                                                    You don't SERIOUSLY THINK that this price is relevant, do you? I mean fuck, it's a price with a VERY STATED expiration date

                                                                                      Oh god, now scrap.tf are buying for 1.55?

                                                                                      I wish I could resuggest again but it's too late now T_T

                                                                                        Please don't suggest again. Your suggestion is incorrect.

                                                                                          It's correct. I don't think it has any problems since I brought a ton of solid proof.

                                                                                          It's fine.

                                                                                          If you give me counter-proof, it will be fun.

                                                                                            The counter-proof being this is NOT going to be valid after July 9th?

                                                                                              Many things can be said about what will happen in the future, but Backpack.tf is mainly created to price all the items and to keep up with the market. Current market price is leading towards 1.44 - 1.66 and backpack.tf has to keep up with that. Assumptions like that are not valid. I can put up an assumption on a currency and price it entirely on my assumption with no proof/anything to back it up. Would that be valid? Of course not. We don't know what will happen after July 9th. It may plummet down to 1.33 or it may not (due to supply decreasing).


                                                                                              What we can't do is not update the price of craft hat and let market play it out. Backpack.tf was created to inform others about basic guide price for an item and to keep up with that guide. Many people follows this site whether completely basing the price off of this site or using it as a guide. Not updating the price would only misinform others about the current market price.

                                                                                      scrap.tf sells hat 2 ref each now and buy 1.55 ref each. just so confused

                                                                                        People crafting and all those things. x_x

                                                                                          Honestly I think that the only reason the apparent price is increasing is because of bread box hype. I predict the value will return to its usual after the bread box hype ends.

                                                                                            Good nuff. Approving

                                                                                              These prices are only temporary due to the recent update after July 9th they will be 1.33 again so this suggestion is completley pointless

                                                                                                I will just bring a ton of proof so you guys can't check them all and accept my suggestion.


                                                                                                Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20569932

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20570952

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20577882

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20586161

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20570947

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20592671

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20575417

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20589318

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20559640

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520611095

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520441609

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520597833


                                                                                                Sold for higher

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520608215 (2.33)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520607759 (2.00)

                                                                                                http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10159633 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20526989 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20585581 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20524327 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20565845 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603303 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20543663 (1.66) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520515996)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520496735 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520607365 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520544777 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520617534 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520372061 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520453567 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520371984 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520481021 (1.66)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20590379 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20558339 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20593111 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20550190 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520497411 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520361581 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520375938 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520375908 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520538957 (1.55)

                                                                                                http://www.trade.tf/trade/520472776 (1.55)


                                                                                                Some people really think that I'm destroying economy, lol.

                                                                                                  Incomming proof!


                                                                                                  Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20564219

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20593813

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603132

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20557951

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20385216

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20559640

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20572450

                                                                                                  http://www.trade.tf/trade/520424052


                                                                                                  Sold for higher

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20611509 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20559012 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20574152 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20559944 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20532082 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20604036 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20551780 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20613083 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20560094 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20553324 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20593500 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20534480 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.trade.tf/trade/520371122 (1.66)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20565662 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20557957 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19638336 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20548480 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20547361 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20561671 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.trade.tf/trade/520456283 (1.55)

                                                                                                  http://www.trade.tf/trade/520423934 (1.55)


                                                                                                  Buyers

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20601047 (1.44)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20405910 (1.44)

                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603737 (1.44)

                                                                                                    http://imgur.com/KKU1FTh

                                                                                                    Sold for 1.66 quite fast, upvote!

                                                                                                        Mr.Giang has buttrushed this suggestion with so much proof it's almost undeniable. Upvote, even if the price will just go back to 1.33 after the end of the event.

                                                                                                          I dunno about this... there's a fuckton of proof, so, upvote, I guess.

                                                                                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603040 1.66 sold for a craft hat, took a bit but still under 2 days i think.

                                                                                                              Tons of proof upvoted!

                                                                                                                http://imgur.com/3EiLsbI

                                                                                                                Sold 6 robo hats for 1 key (1.44 each)

                                                                                                                Upvote!

                                                                                                                  Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20564946

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603132

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20636100

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20614912

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20592671

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20595540


                                                                                                                  Sold for higher

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20621751 (2.00 for Virtual Reality Headset)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20569472 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20638458 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20630374 (1.66 for Big Country http://www.trade.tf/trade/520353254 )

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20596486 (1.66 offer for Virtual Reality Headset, sold Stout Shako for 1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20620150 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20607559 (1.66) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520295131)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20570609 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20628113 (1.66 for Battery Bandolier)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20639603 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20582646 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20565845 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20618425 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20621899 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20625642 (1.66) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520347571)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20632009 (1.66 for Spectre's Spectacles)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20584898 (1.66) (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520357535, let's all be honest: no one pays extra for special level on a craft hat)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20591950 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20630022 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.trade.tf/trade/520363669 (1.66)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20578588 (1.55)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20568532 (1.55)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20631334 (1.55)

                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20595540 (1.55)


                                                                                                                  Conclusion: Anything lower than 1.66 is getting rarer now.

                                                                                                                    Please mods, end this suffer for me.


                                                                                                                    Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20569932

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20594419

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20626747

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20611151

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20618924

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20570947

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20628840 (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520340123)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20595139

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520340591

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520340530

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520307736


                                                                                                                    Sold for higher

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20587292 (2.33)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20570932 (2.00)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20600658 (2.00)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20589578 (2.00)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20574987 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20641840 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20591148 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20592039 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603033 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20596067 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20606102 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20619236 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20582682 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20631492 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20579598 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20574987 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20603962 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20631127 (1.66, got a " 1 ref+ 1 F. Jarate+ 1 Pan" offer)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20618924 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20600618 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520347200 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520319031 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520392508 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520329128 (1.66)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20631334 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20614925 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20629836 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20590379 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20624287 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20631334 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20618924 (1.55)

                                                                                                                    http://www.trade.tf/trade/520394600 (1.55)


                                                                                                                    Conclusion: People seem to be successful at selling hats for 2 ref each now but not enough to be included in the range.

                                                                                                                        I'm a little confused on pricing "craft hats", so this means that the Mongolian is a craft hat but the Tyrolean isn't? So it's only for the less popular hats that usually get used for crafting or the ones that always have been priced at 1.33?

                                                                                                                          " this means that the Mongolian is a craft hat but the Tyrolean isn't?"

                                                                                                                          For now, yes.

                                                                                                                          And the term "craft hats" are used for hats which have been priced at 1.33.

                                                                                                                          Nothing is starting. Once the update is a history, so will be anything 1.22+

                                                                                                                            same price for every craftable hat?


                                                                                                                            top lels. gg bp.tf. can't wait to see how much this doesn't work at all

                                                                                                                              fuck you dick

                                                                                                                                No No if people keep increasing price how can you work for your items without having to buy this is bull stop increasing prices we dont need them to be overly expensive

                                                                                                                                  So much proof it's too much to handle. Upvote.

                                                                                                                                    Im starting to think that the mods are like deliberately ignoring this. But the proof is good, and the market is showing the range (or at least in the trading servers), so upvote.

                                                                                                                                      The thing is this is a temporary raise. It will be a real hassle if you just raise the price of a random craft hat by 1 scrap for like 2 more weeks. After the hype is gone this will return to normal.

                                                                                                                                        I will quote this, for the last time:

                                                                                                                                        "You're forgetting one fact that the craft hats are also going down in supply for now. Until or unless people start to craft more hats by metals, yes that maybe the permanent price for now. There is no reason for anyone to be scared/panicked about this, prices are bound to change for anything/any item."

                                                                                                                                        And what happend with the "craft hat" category anyway?


                                                                                                                                        Sold for 2.00

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20630262

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20607765


                                                                                                                                        Sold for 1.66

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20652689

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20656121

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20656580

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20624396

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20623346

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20602560

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20618633 (Craft #80, level 99, sold for 1.66, that's sad)

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20643920

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20623543

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20646663 (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520262040)

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20621622

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20660457

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20610382

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520344840


                                                                                                                                        Sold for 1.55

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20609235

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20608629

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520279801


                                                                                                                                        Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20632549

                                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20642509 (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520256804)

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520232111

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520343767

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520290537

                                                                                                                                        http://www.trade.tf/trade/520253448

                                                                                                                                          i aggre ten fold especial with scrap ].tf buying for 1.44 and selling or 1.77

                                                                                                                                            Wait, wait, wait, the hat is no longer a currency?

                                                                                                                                              I believe it has been removed from the front page only because of it being controversial to few subjects and such. I am not 100% sure but I can tell that this might be the very reason why it was removed from the front page. It is still there and you can still price it from the pricelist section. ^_^

                                                                                                                                                Thanks for the information, Plaxorous. There should be more people like you out there! :3

                                                                                                                                                  No, problemo. ^_^ They might add it back anytime though, or it might just remain in the pricing list page and nowhere else and will be used for big updates like this one where all/most crafts hat either go up or down.

                                                                                                                                                    Okay. Gracias! =)

                                                                                                                                              How long will I have to wait?


                                                                                                                                              Sold for 1.44

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20637535

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20653468

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20642665

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20653034

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20640557

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20668273

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20660935

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20648382

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20644006

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20640362

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20637535

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20635408

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20641416

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20632494

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20627387

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520354189


                                                                                                                                              Sold for 1.55

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20662711

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20640732

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20607221

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20602511

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20647940

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20648817

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20641740

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20640439


                                                                                                                                              Sold for 1.66

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20031910

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20566143

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20674045

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20678073

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20665732

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20644427

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20655083

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20633446

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20630539 (http://www.trade.tf/trade/520352292)

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20630142

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20625347

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20652874

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20677541

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20632009

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20677361

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20629593

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20653540

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520191226

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520179357

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520170584

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520333895

                                                                                                                                              http://www.trade.tf/trade/520258458


                                                                                                                                              Sold for 1.88

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20674204


                                                                                                                                              Sold for 2.00

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20627944

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20654171

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20620813

                                                                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20641119

                                                                                                                                                I had sold my hat for 1.33 for 1 month :|

                                                                                                                                                and you say that we need to change that price at 1.55

                                                                                                                                                i don't agree

                                                                                                                                                  Any logic behind that?

                                                                                                                                                  And I don't really care if you agree with the change or not. This is the fact of the current market so deal with it.

                                                                                                                                                  If you still disagree, counter-prove me, don't just say that.