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Who knew this day would come?
Trade.tf prices this at 8.33-8.44
Proof:
Sellers at 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443479 - 8.00 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443467 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443151 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443857 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442991 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443755 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436578
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436724
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436011
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20430798
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20427791
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428931
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428785
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428743
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428468
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20421966
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20373194
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437992
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438235
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442991
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20421634
Sellers at 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443330 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442295 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443165 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442789 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20053006
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442758
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442133
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437875
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439446
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438318
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437934
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439783
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443524
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443159
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444929
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444242
Sellers at 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20149466
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160736
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160384
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20238757
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20206703
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442073
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19479890
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442764
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442697
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437964
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20296814
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20441364
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20078831
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439180
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437964
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20344107
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20434644
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416104
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437849
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436670
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439786
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20420812
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20375767
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20420180
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406983
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439597
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19299010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444823
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20440057
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443998
http://bazaar.tf/trade/855461
Thank you :)
I think I pooped my pants a little when I saw the little red arrow pointing down.
Its happened before, keys were priced up, but were incorrectly priced, causing the illusion of it lowering
same thing happened to me
xD gave me good laugh thanks
most of which is 8.66 already been sold, no keys in stock ^^
Look at my name tho
and you change it from B> Key 8.66 to B> Key 8.55, I wonder why
ahhh bread hype. For dem bread boxes. That's probably the main reason why keys are declining for now. ;)
Also take a look at scrap.tf: http://puu.sh/9Bj6V/2b19817c86.png
50+ keys available for 8.44 ref.
http://imgur.com/XwwZGhx
There are now 77 keys in stock at 8.44. I'm all for this key decrease!
http://i.imgur.com/GKLIBFf.png
There's actually 2 now, in a matter of 7 hours :3
Keys Have Been That Price For A Very Long Time, They Haven't Raised Or lowered their prices for keys in months, scrap.tf shouldnt effect the key market. And there's usually only 3 or 4 available every 30 minutes, the bots were down for selling keys the other day so they were being stockpiled.
You should consider the Summer Sales, the Keys dropped their price always.
PS: What are waiting the mods for accept it? LOT of proof (Without bots), people are upvoting it, scrap.tf has lot of stock...
8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...
Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!
They're not even a damn day old!
Yes, so 8.33 ref is not in the price range.
"Quicksales have never been accepted into the price suggestion" So you're basically just repeating what I said before. We're all aware 8.33 ref sellers are quicksells. You're acting like backpack.tf and key prices are on the level of some government conspiracy. It's a game. If the economy favours the "commoners and the richer" surely what you're saying is everyone benefits, what's wrong with that?! You're just switching the subject to backpack.tf being corrupt with no real evidence or validity to your argument. Also there's no need to spam your first comment 3 times.
Sssh, I watched enough x-files to know the conspiracy, and that spam was not made by me, I only made one comment.And it's wrong because I have seen legit and good suggestions get denied of the same reason 'quick sales', and almost always they are not.
So you're moaning about 8.33 ref being quicksells but then saying you have supported suggestions that included quicksells in their ranges. This suggestion is not getting denied for the reason of 'quick sells' whatsoever. I really don't understand what point your're trying to make here. Your argument is so far flawed and meaningless.
No, it's not meaningless and flawed, you just don't understand.
People use sellers to lower-prices, right?
In this case, the keys are getting quickly sold at 8.33, because they are sold in under a day less, ok?
Then, I have seen suggestion with sellers at lower prices, which are about 2 days or more old, but people still blame them as quick sellers... do you get what I mean?
I understand very well my friend, I've been on this site long enough. What I'm saying is how are those other suggestions relevant? If the suggester had included 8.33 ref in the range then fine, you're argument would mean something. I really don't see your gripe here with simply including them with the proof, there's nothing wrong with it provided they are identified as quicksells, which they are. Your first comment suggested you were against using the quicksells, which was a pointless thing to say because they were already not included but now you are talking about other suggestions where the quicksells weren't quicksells. I agree about the occasional suggestion where trades are wrongly labelled as quicksells but it's rare and doesn't relate to what you first comment was about. This suggestion is not going to be closed for the reason you've stated above.
Well, trades labelled as quicksells, when they are not are pretty common mate... I check quite a lot of them, hoping to see why some get accepted and why some don't, I see people with valid proof, but get denied, I see people with in-valid proof and get accepted, other suggestions are relevenat to this because they also effect part of the economy, and are made by people too.
You said:
"8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...
Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!
They're not even a damn day old!"
What was the point in that comment I quoted above? You are stating that the sales are quicksells but it doesn't mean anything because no person stated otherwise. Your comment was pointless, it didn't mean anything because the suggester had not added 8.33 ref to the range! You keep saying about these suggestions with valid and invalid proof but you haven't linked any in your comments as proof so I'm inclined to believe you're spouting bull**** for the sake of of spouting bull**** and are just arguing because 'ooo bp.tf so coruppttt QQ'. The other suggestions are not relevant because this suggestion is not flawed by having miss-labelled quicksells. A hat suggestion does not have knock-on effect for a currency suggestion. The proof is valid! You're quite blatantly not reading my comments properly and not getting the point so this is my last comment. I'm done trying the situation to you.
Your comments are way too long, I try my best to read what ever you throw at me, why should I link stuff anyways?And speaking of one-side-minded, this craft hat thing now, 1.33?There are some 'craft hat' priced stuff which vary a lot, but still get called a craft hat, and this price is immovable now because you would need a sell of EVERY craft-hat listed for that ammount, and not just one but many.
TL;DR : Craft hat thing is made up by the staff, no suggestions from users, your comments are way too long.
off topic as to key suggesting, but if you've been paying any attention there are suggestions for the craft hat thing going
(also 1.33 is/was an accepted standard for craft hat value)
A simple question to humble my incompetent mind, who else exists in the awe-inspiring world of da tf2 trading community besides the "commoners" and the "richer"? Thank you your lord highness
8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...
Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!
They're not even a damn day old!
8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...
Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!
They're not even a damn day old!
Ok I just saw a key go up for 1 refined on the classifieds. Joke is obvious there but now I'm worried that people are only trying to support this with their key trades.
i actually managed to get a few @8.22 so upvote :)
Question, it may not be related, but, how do you check if something has been sold on backpack.tf?
I remember the good old days when keys were 2.33 Ref. Anyways upvote, good proof, and pray that the key market restores back to its normal self.
Just sold my key for 8.44 ref. feels good.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20585017
That's kinda less sellers at 8.55 compared to 8.66
That's because people are blind and go for the price that bp.tf has. They never make a price for their selves. Not alot of people buy keys for 8.66. they buy it relative to the price bp has if it's lower good. If it's higher people are like "are u trying to scam me?". Everything is based on the price bp.tf has.
Trades at 8,33 Ref look kinda faked.
Why do you show sellers at 8,66 Ref?
Anyways, this isn't enough proof to lower the price.
Fake, seriously? lol
I put sellers at 8.66 to show it doesn't sell.
unsolds at 8,66 ref?
Did you check the section labeled "Sellers at 8.66"?
Buyers -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19177766 - 8.66 (Bot)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19533678 - 8.66 (Bot)
As I said so many times, bots aren't good proof/counter-proof.
An example: I can create 15 bots, all of them with different names, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. I have one friend who created 10 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. And there I have ANOTHER friend who created 25 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. Can you use 50 trades from different bots? Yes, of course! But you can't use 50 trades from 3 friends.
Exactly why bots should be kept out of currency suggestions as much as possible, especially key where most bots are. You can't never say whether you are posting the same bot or a different one.
Both bots are out of metal
Well, I also have about 3-4 bots in my friends list that are buying keys at 8.66, but all of them are out of metal and full of keys. They will change their prices soon probably.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20373274#latest - If it helps any, I have bought multiple Keys at 8.44 Ref.
I know. I'm risking my next month's rep though by upvoting.
honestley who cares about your bp.tf rep ?
Voting does matter. If an admin sees a suggestion has 100% like my Tricorne one: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53a16afb4dd7b898238b45c7
they'll be less hesitant to have any doubts about it. If a suggestion had 20% in favor and 80% against, you know something is wrong.
You'll never see an accepted unusual suggestion with less than 55% upvotes.
heres a fun fact almost every unusual price in bp.tf is outdated or a lot higher or less then the ones that are actually being sold on outpost and and trade servers
Here's a fun fact, The Elder Syrup likes guessing instead of proving them with fact.
I can assure you that most unusuals have a recent price, I would know because I've suggested 120 new prices... And there are many more unusual suggesters who have contributed a huge amount.
Another fun fact, lots of item prices are even more outdated than unusuals, some botkillers are 1 year old.
If you look at your 8.66 ref links, some of them don't even have keys left.
Neutral, but just a suggestion:
You need more solid proof of failed sellers at 8.66. Pretty much ALL of your links atm is either poorly bumped, already sold without closing trade, or already sold.
If you get like 200+ more legit links, this suggestion may be possible =)
Lowering keys? Burn him at the stake!
tfw people don't get the sarcasm.
Tfw these types of comments are unnecessary.
That's just a current price drop due to the new update - nothing special, it will go 'back to the unfortunate normal' in a few days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20378126 ~ 8.77 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19177766 Buying for 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20414825 Buying for 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19749120 Buying for 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19299010 Buying for 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18498026 Buying for 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20053006 Buying for 8.44
All on the first page. Easy downvote.
All of them are bots. I'll copy & paste from my last comment:
"As I said so many times, bots aren't good proof/counter-proof.
An example: I can create 15 bots, all of them with different names, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. I have one friend who created 10 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. And there I have ANOTHER friend who created 25 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. Can you use 50 trades from different bots? Yes, of course! But you can't use 50 trades from 3 friends."
all those bots still have to actually resell those keys or else they suddenly won't be buying anymore. The key bots don't trade among each other because in the end they'd all have the same number of metal/keys. Key bots require non-bot users to actually trade with them to actually make any profit. Repeatedly selling keys back and forth between bots for the same price wouldn't be valid proof and that's not what anybody gives you. The bots don't trade each other.
Solds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450402 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450914 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450000 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450137 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451685 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450456 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449240 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449185 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449492 - 8.55
Unsolds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451871 - 6.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451499 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449690 - 8.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451593 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452187 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452707 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451241 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450976 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452337 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448706 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444242 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447740 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449456 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450410 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20412495 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448985 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451700 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451274 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450189 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449846 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449341 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452746 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432305 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20364644 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452210 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451526 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451274 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448545 - 8.66
Besides, tf2finance values keys at
8.59 - 8.58- 8.57http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - Sold all
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044 - Sold three
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - Really young , and you call it Unsold?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232 - Sold one
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320 - Sold one is less than 1 hour
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449456 - Really young , and you call it Unsold?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - Really young , and you call it Unsold?
A Trade that isn't 1 day old cannot be called unsold.
your first and last link (with apparently different text) are the same link.
All way too young. An unsold would probably be considered >2 days for currency like keys..
By the look of those links, most are unbumped since creation, sold instantly or within an hour or so.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448545 Never bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451274 Never bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451526 Never bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452210 Never bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224 Sold in 2 hours, looks like he had more than 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 Unbumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452746 Never bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044 Sold instantly
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843 Sold in 3 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447740 Looks like he had more than 1 in stock and he's sold all of his previous ones within 5 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 Never bumped
Some of your listed links are duplicates, a majority of them have never been bumped or have been sold instantly.
I dislike the price of keys being this high but the proof cannot prove that 8.66 doesn't sell.
Nice proof, but thats like 70 trades with keys out of a 1000 trades with keys. And in some of your trades it looks like they get them sold at 8.66 (the acktual price). So you are gonna need more to get the key down.
Sad to say it, but a lot of those 8.66 sellers have sold out already, many in under a day.
However, this show that there are people selling for lower than the current range and at the low end. Maybe a range of 8.33-8.66 could work?
this suggestion will never pass, the price does not have a range, and their are many, many buyers over 8.55.
Why would a range be necessary?
Finally. A suggestion worth voting on
Upvote
People are buying from your 8.66 list dude. Lots of sold out there.
buyers for 8 (craft hats) arnt prooving much since craft hats are ALL gonna raise with the new update where u need 3 hats to unbox the bread box.
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Key dropping..... GABE NEWELL HAS RIGGED THIS
Good proof, but neutral for now.
Well im glad the key price is finaly stabilizing. what was happening more and more keys where coming out, but now that their kinda stopped, people just arent willing to buy them at the current price their at
There is a giant demand for Hats and refined metal
Scrap.tf is out of hats while selling at 1.66
and I found 4 keys in their vaults, coincidentally!
http://i.imgur.com/XUHv4og.png
All keys for 8.66 sold, there is no longer proof
Isn't there a cooldown?
OMG, I didnt thought that day will come, the day when I can finally UPVOTE for key suggestion make the price go DOWN. Cant belive that day actually came ;D Amazing proof, upvote for me, and if it helps I also bought a few for 8.44 2-3 days ago, and they wasnt quicksells. so I dont care how much people going to dislike this comment, this proof diserve a upvote. gl manת I EXPONET you.
#UpdateHype
Keys might go back up after everything is settled xD
Upvote- Never though I'd have to vote for keys to go down though...
They'll go back up, it 's going down because of the introduction of another key, so probably in a month it'll be back up.
because metal = free (you play you get) and keys = 2.5$ from the store?
Such logic!
You are wrong in a way, it does cost time to make metal.
they'll never go that high unless something happened and a lot of keys started to get deleted since people just wouldn't be willing to pay that much for a key. Should the amount of keys go up and ref goes down, there's a tipping point were ref will start to go up and keys will begin to fall.
I liek how using actual logic gets - scores
Jesus christ the classifieds are all 8.33 and 8.44
keys are dropping, this is it, they're gonna nosedive
Well, I wouldn't be too sure. There are still a lot of people selling and buying around 8.55+, but this could be a sign of keys finally becoming stable.
Scrap.tf selling at 8.44, just shows how bad it is.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20456729 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453897 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20415217 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20457174 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20456980 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20454356 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20457071 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20457285 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20457195 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20456515 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20341732 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447740 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448434 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20201897 - 8.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20420180 - 8.66
Scrap.tf didn't raise their prices after 8.22/8.33
Scrap.tf has been selling keys for 8.44 for at least a few days I believe......
http://scrap.tf/ has been like this almost one week or more. A lot of people has accused them for manipulation of key markets and so on they haven't updated their key prices, thats what Ive been told. Also I've been monitoring their key stocks, and that meaning their keys sells really quickly @ their price, its almost impossible to get one as people buy it really quickly off.
Nearly all of your 8.66 sellers have sold.
Lol. If you're not gonna read the comments. Go somewhere else. Over 10 times have I and others mentioned it.
I've read nearly all of the comments. Please enlighten me to this apparently secret reason you have for justifying why a price point that's not included in your range is still selling so easily.
Yes! Much Proof! Finally! Keys have to come down! A new age begins!
It's actually normal if refined metals worth more and more (against key). TF2 updates have been demanding to burn them to complete recipes, no drops for idle, and today to craft new cosmetics.
But 8.55 flat ?
Your Unsolds at 8.66 are sold:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010 sold in 10 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541 sold 3 within 6 hours
The following, sold in less than a day ...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450410
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449846
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20364644
.... many more ...
I'd gamble with 8.33-8.66 if I were you.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20459060 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20458877 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452707 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20458744 - 8.55
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453897 - 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185387 - 8.55, buying and selling
Yeah, this is not a lot of links, but what the heck.
I thought you had to wait a few days before making a key suggestion unless something significant happened?
New update with loads of hype, is that not significant?
Explain to me how the price of keys gets affected now, I'm confused.
Everyone crafting hats, ref for the bread thing, not exactly sure.
That would be hats.
Summer sale always causes keys to fluctuate--people sell them on the market or trade them to get games, so a lot of hoards tend to diminish.
Ok that seems to make sense. Gotta get dem games!
This is sorta late, but lots of ppl crafted the new weps (I tried crafting them without the recipes, lost at least two ref in weps and metal :(), the new hats (50 different hats with new low craft #s, I spent 9 ref in a yolo moment where I absolutely failed), and the bread boxes needed craft hats which had a sudden decrease as ppl bought from scrap.tf which filled the bots with too much metal, making it so that they couldn't trade, leaving you with ppl desperate enough to craft hats using ref to make the bread boxes. There. Try typing that with one finger
If u dont know, dat hype is unstoppable. If you show every solds above 8.55, then the range would be 'a bit' other. So dont try to be somebody who you arent. Your hate to keys hype is useless :D
good thing somone is finally posting for them to go down seeing as how if they keep going up they will get to a point where people will use some other currency or just use ref and forget about keys
A major event/update has happened therefore cool down is not in effect.
Okay, thanks for explaining, up vote.
Yay vote up!
Price...deflation?
Good God no.
Upvote.
there's 1 person in classifieds selling 2 for 8 refined each, and a few selling for 8.44. Just throwin' it out there
i am sorry for everyone to hear this, but the cooldown time has not been elapsed yet, a minimum of 3 days must be given between price suggestions for currencies... :( i am sad also but this can be done in two days
Eh, it'll take them 2 days to make a decision, this'll be open by the time cooldown ends.
"A major event/update has happened therefore cool down is not in effect." -The suggestor
Don't care. Upvote
For anyone confused about the cooldown rules, you can find them here; http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2620-key-cooldown-guidelines-read-before-making-key-suggestions/
The cooldown rule does not apply if a significant event related to keys happens, and the Summer Sale certainly qualifies. Many people trade keys for games or sell them on the market to get steam wallet funds, and so large sales often do make keys much more common, if only temporarily. Hopefully this clears up any confusion.
Thanks, I was a bit confused about the lack of cool down, but this clears it up.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474087 - 7.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473804 - 8 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473801 - 8 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473797 - 8.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473891 - 8.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473879 - 8.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474021 - 8.33 ref
^rather interesting than real proof :P
Yes almost all bots that are buying for 8.55+ are out of metal.
BUT 8.66 still seems to sell without too much hassle. And I dont see that 8.44 is very common so I'm not too sure about this. Staying neutral for now unless more proof is provided either way.
Yeah, none of them have metals or hardly any.
scrap.tf has 132 keys @ 8.44! Upvote.
I think that rather than being a bit behind like the bp.tf range usually is. e.g 8.55-8.66 ref whereas people are actually buying and sellinf for 8.77-8.88ref that the current range of 8.55-8.66 is actually spot on. Price doesn't need a change as although there are sellers at 8.55, 8.66 still sells as has been proven.
You can easily get one for 8.33 - 8.44 ref
8.55 ref seems to be the most common trading point now.
Also, look what Wolfi said. :P
"BUT 8.66 still seems to sell without too much hassle. And I dont see that 8.44 is very common so I'm not too sure about this. Staying neutral for now unless more proof is provided either way."
We seem to be in agreement?
Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9
8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point.
i agree that the price should be dropped
for once, im going to upvote a key suggestion
hahahaa
You might actually decrease key prices
Upvote!
Bot are buying keys for 8.66 ref then y did u put it as 8.55. Also 8.55 is sold quickly
Nearly every single bot buying at 8.66 are out of metal. Scrap.tf have hundreds in stock at 8.44, TF2finance values keys at 8.50 which is pretty much 8.44-8.55 and even 8.33 is extremely easy to find if you wait 5 minutes. More proof will also be added, just wait.
Scrap.tf is buying keys at only 8.22 and selling them at 8.44. They seem to constantly have at least a few keys in stock, even being the huge site they are. Although it is most likely temporary, I feel like keys might actually not be going up.
The day has finally come? *Gasp*
Could it be? Have we finally reached the ceiling of the key price?
I went and looked about. Lo and behold sellers for 8.55 appear often on outpost. They still sell quite fast but there's more of them.
The Classifieds actually have keys selling for less than market price.
This is possible. I can't believe it but it could be
By the gods I see more 8.33-8.55 popping up on outpost and the classifieds!
Can someone who stayed awake in Economy class please explain to me why this is happening? Apart from bread requiring craftable hats to open I can't see a single reason people would need or want to sell so many keys!
Well, as I see, the Bread Box requires 3 hats to be used. So people want to get a lot of craft hats and they want to quick-sell their keys for metal to buy hats => Craft hats go up, keys go down because people don't want keys anymore.
Same thing happened to DotA 2 keys, too.
Would it be worth it though? Would breads join the ranks of Salvaged Crate Stranges? There's a long while till the 9th and if too many people bank on it then they'll be rivers of tear soaked bread-based weaponry heading to the market only to be sold for less than a key.
Mostly because of hype, it will be worth though.
But I do believe Strange Breads will join the ranks of Salvaged Crate Stranges and normal ones will have the same fate of normal festives.
Probably. The Mutated Milk, Mutated Cutie Mark and Snack attack do make for fun weapons. Leveled too.
Probably not, because salvaged crates were really rare and required the crate and at least one key. Bread boxes require 4 ref, and u don't even need to find the crate. But yeah, Volvo obviously had the tf2 Econ in mind for this update.
Not to mention that Scrap.tf is buying 8.22 and selling 8.44
They only set that, since the hype of Audition reels with the new taunts, and loads of people will be looking for keys, so they will rake in monay, either that or they are overstocked on keys atm :3 (highly doubtful)
Staying neutral. I sell keys at 8.66 pretty easily. However there are sellers at 8.44 though seldom.
As Plaxorous stated.
"Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9
8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point."
Read the comments.
Might be a Quicksell: http://tinypic.com/r/2sah5ix/8
He sold about 5 or 6 of them at that price. :P
Please keep the keys going down
OMG I <3 YOU SO. Upvote!
I dont have much knowledge, but these are all young trades and they seem absolutely fine to me
upvote
How am I powerful? lol, earned ~$450 profit in a month...? I only just started reading recently.
Wow you earned $450 in a month? Which prize do you pick?
Dat humble brag
Pssh only four hundred and fiddy? Lol that's not a lot. Btw, u just started reading? Dang, so you're like a two-year old making money from tf2? Jk lol don't hate me pls
This took me like 5 minutes to find:
Selling for 8.55:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20493599
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20490681
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20493359
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464224
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20486938
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20492959
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20483922
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20459876
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19876226 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474987
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20488587
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20350089
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406401 - bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20479525
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20480891
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20456980
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20478288
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20477454
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474109
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20472549
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474113
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20471351
Finally a drop. Ahhh
mother of god... im not an expert of trading but i upvote this suggestion :3, not because of the lowering...a bit but mostly on links. *i have high hope for this*
Im gonna miss my bp value if this goes thru ;-;
You're gonna miss 3.22 ref...?
Definitely.
Good for you ;)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20496191#latest
selling for 8.55 sold 0 :(
It commonly sells at 8.55 and 8.66. I think 8.55 - 8.66 is a fine range already :/
Don't think you can read the comments. I've repeated this many times. About 95% of buyers at 8.66 are bots which are all out of metal.
As Plaxorous stated.
"Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9
8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point."
Scrap.tf has like 50+ keys for 8,44 ref. can probably go lower imo
[url]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/432658543151477620/80BC3C7FCE6704B5FAF3591ADD3BE98DAF0379E1/[/url]
I saw this guy ingame selling for 8.33. He said the message like 10 times and IDk if he sold any.
[url]http://gyazo.com/4f3bb99c48c877bbe9c87d19e8d0f738[/url] Classifieds. Not one for 8.66 or up.
I seriously think the economey might be changing
I think I like it
Who knew it would take a loaf of bread?
Jesus people, the economy isn't changing at all lol. This is standard hype train. People want to get metal to craft hats for the new bread boxes, so they sell at lower price. This is how buds fluctuate as well. New update, new keys, people lowering the sale price on buds to get said keys. I agree that the price should be lowered right now because there's proof, but don't count on them continuing to go down
Sales at 8.66 -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20149466 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160736 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160384 - closed
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20238757 - closed/unbumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20206703 - closed
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822 - closed
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822 - closed
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442073 - unbumped, sold 1 at least
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442764
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442697
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437964
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20501286
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20441364
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439180
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20344107
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20434644
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416104
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447740
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20412495
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448985
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451700
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450189
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449846
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449341
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452746
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432305
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436670
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439786
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406983
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443998
However, 8.66 buyers are not that common - an increase is not needed for sure. Unsure if a drop is needed.
Some took day(s) to sell, some weren't even sold and were just closed (not including the ones you included) and a few had interest from few days back before the update. The counter-proof is quite weak. I'll counter every link when I get the time.
Bought one for 8.33 instant - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20506546
Scrap.tf got tons of keys in stock (buying for 8.22 & 8.44)
The 8.66 sales were used by you =P
Didn't you say Cleverpun that you can't make a one scrap change? http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2620-key-cooldown-guidelines-read-before-making-key-suggestions/
There's certain exceptions, such as a major event, and with the Summer Sale here, people are trying to get rid of their keys quicker now - keys will rise back up eventually, afterwards, but yeah. Cleverpun did comment saying it's ok to suggest under these circumstances.
8.33 is definitely doable, but I agree that it's a quicksell: people are sold out with multiple keys in about 10 minutes. However, the sheer bulk of sellers at 8.33 kinda negates the fact that it's a quicksell- I was able to get keys at 8.33 in 10 minutes with minimal searching. What's considered a quicksell key-wise today would be slow compared to 3 or so months ago- keys this far below the price range would sell within a minute, no lie. I like this conservative drop for now, but continued key drops are definitely viable in the future. Upvote.
As of 4:20 PM Mountain Time (I live in Colorado and that time is not intentionally funny), scrap.tf had over one hundred keys selling at 8.44.
Obviously this means that not only did over a hundred people sell keys at 8.22, but they're still not taken even though they are one or two scrap below the current backpack.tf key value.
http://i.imgur.com/927W8oj.png
"Keybanking has been fixed"
*No keys in stock*
Not sure how to feel about this o.o
Keys need to start going down, The fact that there is evidence to support it is friggin' fantastic!
upvoat good proof but of course its good proof its by google :3
Admins, don't even think of closing yet. More proof will be added in a few hours. Also why is every single comment about keys going down being upvoted lol?
If it's right you should keep adding proof for as long as this suggestion is open, so if you state that you don't want mods to close it because you're gonna add more proof, it would theoretically stay open forever.
Also i don't think saying "don't even think of closing yet." sounds polite at all.
Sounded quite rude, I agree. Can't remove/edit it now though.
That's not true. You could easily delete your comment.
i replied about 2 hours after he posted his comment, the time to edit/delete was over.
Personal opinion > Logic
General mindset, every time. People want these keys down, brotha, and you can't convince them to think otherwise.
Keys are going down because hats are going up since people wanted to be a little stingy with key prices and I guess they got the hint up above.
IT'S HAPPENING!!!
I like the proof you have, so upvote to the max!
There are no buyers at 8.66 in any website at all... It's happening.
Buyers always lowball. Im not surprised there are no buyers at 8.66. But it is something to acknowledge.
Here are some 8.55 Buyers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19785331
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19876226
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20559981
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19299010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20558695
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20547596
That was a quick 5 minutes of searching. People are buying for less but selling for more.
Of Course! That's how key work! That is, until now...
metal and craft hats went up, keys went down, a good day for trading
SUPPORTING PROOF
Since you need sellers to drop a price...
Selling for 8.55
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185387[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19876226[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20403549[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20469486[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464224[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519210[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474816[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511283[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517429[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20522575[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518254[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20521921[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18854714[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518526[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516118[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443524[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516092[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518999[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513749[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518803[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511898[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20471351[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517637[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20505787[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516084[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517184[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517348[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516282[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20512396[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20509194[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519780[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20404062[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517376[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517704[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519154[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20520941[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20520704[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514716[/url]
Selling for less than 8.55
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20296814[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20501939[/url] appears to be out of stock
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20520797[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20515474[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20510105[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20522275[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20521153[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20520110[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20521972[/url]
With scrap.tf having them at 8.44 each, why not.
read what the mods say
If you want to convince all tf2 traders to see keys as 3.66, be my guest.
Say you got 90% of the people to see keys at 3.66, it wont change that most of the people want to transfer metal to keys, all the 3.66 ones will sellout instantly and the other 10% won't have a problem buying for 8+ ref.
Since people can get key from the people convinced they are 3.66, they will try to buy those asap, where keys will be soldout and people will start selling for higher, where they still sellout since people have currently no problem buying for 8+ ref. All it would do it is give it a short time to get keys back to this point, where they probbably will continue to rise at a higher speed than now because they already had a huge momentum for going from 4 to 9 ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20534822
Sold at 8.33
can't click on the agree button. need help
http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=mann%20co.%20supply%20crate%20key&page=1 - first and half of the second page is selling for 8.55 ref
I literally looked up every single seller at 8.55 ref on outpost.
Selling for 8.55 ref:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20530749 - sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20532251
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20459876
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20523294
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20527123
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20533572
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508667 - bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20528194
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516092
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20403549 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20528571
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453486
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20496191
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20503159
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20227753
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20470878
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20525429
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20528288
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20528078
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474816
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20514716
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185387 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20526351
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518803
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504536
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20495968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20522575
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20520704
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20519780
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20505787
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20471351
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511283
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517704
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517376
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517184
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20509194
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516282
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516084
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464224 - out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513749 - "Will lower price to 8 ref if 8.55 ref is not possible"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20511898
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508265
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20507010
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19770518 - 8.44-8.55, out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504907
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20502993 - bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20502246
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20500726
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20499407
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20500620
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20500321
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424782
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20499209
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20497820
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20496597 - out of stock, restocking
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20494877
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20493599
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20488587
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406401 - bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20477454
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20468900
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20468338
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20466435
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20466286
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464922
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453546 - 8 ref?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450976 - 2 bread boxes or 8.55 metal (costs 8 ref to craft 2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444242
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20435901
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20433021
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432427
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416542
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406548
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20395958
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19443258 - out of stock, restocking
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20326198
This is beautiful.
Holy shit. Thanks for the support.
No problem.
i approve. also, lots of people sell their keys at scrap.tf for 8.22. keys are worth so much metal these days that a few scraps become really insignificant.
Note that the update came out 3 days ago and then the demand of keys dropped. That's why I've typed "X days ago", just to show when the latest sale happened.
Unsolds at 8.66 ref:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20497163 - 21 hours (quite young)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20478886 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20476802 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20487560 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20479048 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20475192 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20465706 - 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20349407 - 6 days, 1 sold (6 days ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20394547 - 4 days, possibly 1 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20309735 - 1 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20339071 - 1 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20274671 - 1 week, 2 sold (1 week ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20321861 - 1 week, sold a few at 8.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19429050 - 2 weeks, 1 sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20149466 - 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20165968 - 2 weeks, 1 sold (6 days ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20111369 - 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20131947 - 2 weeks
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18961786 - 3 weeks, 2 sold (1 week ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20077976 - 3 weeks
MOAR PROOF!
8.55 sellers!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20537216
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20536228
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20518254
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20528194
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20516092
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538810
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538981
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508667 - bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20227753 - No interest in a week!
Less than 8.55 sellers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20536361 - 8.00 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20535813 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20418228 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20517229 - 8.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538694 - 8.33 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538612 - 8.44 (sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20538465 - 8.44
Extras
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453076 - Buying 8.44, out of metal
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20394772 - Buying 8.44, out of metal
8.55 is the most common buy/sell point atm. Sellers for 8.55 and under appear way to often for it not to need a drop.
It did once. Then immediately shot up .44 after 2 days
keys are only down because of summer sale. people need cash to buy games... once that train has sailed, get ready for a ref or so increase in key prices, just like winter last year. I think 9.0 is a good number if it stays fixed.... valve should make 9 ref craft to a key, and be done with it.
Well, the thing is,ppl need money to buy games, so they would sell on community market for money, and not for ref right? Or are you discreetly implying that ppl buy the cheap keys that ppl are selling on community market ( for money for games) and since its cheap they can sell at a cheap price right? And also, I highly doubt Volvo would allow you to craft 9 ref into a key because keys make them a lot of money (how many keys are there in the world? Multiply by $2.5 and I bet they don't got taxes :). And even if you could craft 9 ref into a key, that doesn't mean that a key will stay at that price cause other wise, all hats would be 3 ref, as it takes you that much metal to craft right? Of course, the ceiling is definitely going to be at 9 ref but still, trade tf2 community is gonna lower prices of those keys (just like how they lower the prices of those dirty hats that cost like $7.50. Sorry if this sounds oppositional to you, mah 7th grade English teacher taught us to argue well :)
It would help them to remove a ton of metal from the market, making ref more valuable. I think valve wants this if the bread weapons are any indication. I don't see how 9 ref to a key affects the price of hats? the hats are a side market, you cannot smelt hats into metal(or can you?)
I know backpack has a history of trying to keep the SCM out of suggestions and what not, but if you don't think that people are using that to their advantage at a time like this you are blind. I've been playing the arbitage game for months, and have doubled my bp value in that time(even against the sliding ref value), while acquiring about 10 new games for myself, and providing friends games for cash(about 50$ to date) at cheaper prices than steam can provide.
I agree with this suggestion.
This suggesstion is not accurate. It should be 8.44-8.55. I have bought hundreds of keys recently at 8.44. But it's the update hype, they'll go back up soon enough.
Just a thought: Craft hat prices should go up because of this as well. Why not bump the price of refined metal while you're at it too? They're correlated, and everyone's after refined metal nowadays.
But surely if refined goes up then the price of a key in comparison should drop? its a common theme for keys and ref to fluctuate respectively I.E keys go up and the price of a refined drops. Or have i gone n' got this all wrong aha
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20548354 thats another guy selling for 8.55, he got ALOT in his stock.
thats in the price range now as he want 8.55 plus 1 weapon
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20549663#latest I am also selling for 8.55, upvote for me.
Their is TOO Many Sellers Who sell it at 8 ref ~ 8.55 ref but now no buyers/selling at 8.66
Lol this is interesting. And it makes sense, new update, ppl trying to (A): Craft new weps, (B): get low craft #'s on the like 50 new hats, and of course (C): Bread Boxes, which is mostly bread hype (strange bread bites selling for almost 5 bucks on SCM. Almost given up hope on keys but hey, maybe Volvo wants to help the tf2 econ. Ok waiting for the trolls to attack this comment.
There's hope? While I'll agree that this proof is good, it will only set things back for like 2 weeks.
So changing to an upvote for now
Lol i like you're vids man derp :)
good proof upvote
Sold another 3 keys for lower then 8.55 each. http://i.imgur.com/82WVn0E.png
Also bought another 3 keys for lower then 8.44 each http://i.imgur.com/ekWX3hk.png
Actually, I sell so many keys for 8.55 and lower, and buy so many keys at lower then 8.55, I dont have time to post it all ;_;
TOTALLY UPVOTE FOR ME
By the time this suggestion is accepted (or a better one is made), keys will start going up again... Moderators, why are you so slow to react?
key might not be rising but i dont think is dropping because a lot 8.66 sales still happen
Bought 3 for 8.33! Upvoted
If possible, try and get some screenshots of your trade history so it can be used as supporting proof
ok, so this doesnt let me upvote this suggestion but it lets me downvote, seems legit, guess im not voting.
Edit: Miraculously i can upvote now, wonder how that happened ay.
same happened here
That happens when the suggestion gets a high percentage of upvotes.
This is an Outpost thing. I go on a trade server and buy for 8.33 all day. Bought around 10 or so this weekend for that price and I think 5 from outpost asking for that price. Players needed the ref for the update. Only think not really making sense is the serious drop in buds on this site compared to what it costs in $ for buds. What I pay for keys if backed into the going rate for buds is about 18 keys.....
Dude that's really true about the 8.33 thing. I remember going on a trade server and this one guys selling a key 8.33, who then lowered to 8.22. Same thing on another server. And the new update hype so yeah. One thing that I don't get is that, ok, so ppl have a demand for keys, right, and not so much for refined (except recently, as ppl have crafted metal to get the new weps, to get low craft #s, and craft hats for bread boxes. There is a huge supply of ref, and yet you have to buy keys with money. But how would that really affect yourself?
Ok sorry for all that spam, my ipad lagged out sorry I don't know what happened dont hate me please lol but genuinely sorry.
Holy shit! Keys prices GOING DOWN?! I though I would NEVER live to see that momment!
Upvote upvote! Dammit! Why can't I upvote multiple times?! I'll be calling my buddies to upvote this!
Why the hell hasn't this been accepted yet? If it was a suggestion raising the price it would've been accepted already
Fortunately, this hasn't closed yet
Though, I'm sure it'll close.
and heres multiple bots that pay 9 ref for a key http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791434005858/events that is all
Scrap.tf's keys got raped. Not sure about this price
Already voted up because keys dropping in price. This has been in wait for days
After discussion from the moderator team, it is clear that keys are very easy to purchase for the suggested price. Normally buying keys for metal can be an uphill battle, but the massive demand for craft hats (thanks to the bread box) has changed that.
While there are sales for 8.66 and higher, the abundance of keys available for 8.55 and lower warrants a small decrease.