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Who knew this day would come?


Trade.tf prices this at 8.33-8.44


Proof:


Sellers at 8.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443479 - 8.00 (sold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443467 - 8.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443151 - 8.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443857 - 8.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442991 (sold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443755 (sold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436578

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436724

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436011

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20430798

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20427791

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428931

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428785

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428743

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20428468

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20421966

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20373194

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437992

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438235

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442991

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20421634


Sellers at 8.55

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443330 - 8.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442295 - 8.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443165 - 8.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442789 - 8.44

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20053006

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442758

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442133

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437875

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439446

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438318

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437934

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439783

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443524

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443159

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444929

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444242


Sellers at 8.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20149466

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160736

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160384

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20238757

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20206703

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442073

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19479890

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442764

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442697

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437964

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20296814

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20441364

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20078831

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439180

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437964

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438816

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20344107

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438545

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20434644

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20416104

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20437849

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20431994

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20436670

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439786

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20420812

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20375767

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20420180

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406983

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20439597

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438816

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20438545

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19299010

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444823

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20440057

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443998

http://bazaar.tf/trade/855461


Thank you :)

    I think I pooped my pants a little when I saw the little red arrow pointing down.

      Its happened before, keys were priced up, but were incorrectly priced, causing the illusion of it lowering

        same thing happened to me

          xD gave me good laugh thanks

          most of which is 8.66 already been sold, no keys in stock ^^

            Look at my name tho

              and you change it from B> Key 8.66 to B> Key 8.55, I wonder why

                ahhh bread hype. For dem bread boxes. That's probably the main reason why keys are declining for now. ;)


                Also take a look at scrap.tf: http://puu.sh/9Bj6V/2b19817c86.png


                50+ keys available for 8.44 ref.

                  http://imgur.com/XwwZGhx


                  There are now 77 keys in stock at 8.44. I'm all for this key decrease!

                  Keys Have Been That Price For A Very Long Time, They Haven't Raised Or lowered their prices for keys in months, scrap.tf shouldnt effect the key market. And there's usually only 3 or 4 available every 30 minutes, the bots were down for selling keys the other day so they were being stockpiled.

                    You should consider the Summer Sales, the Keys dropped their price always.


                    PS: What are waiting the mods for accept it? LOT of proof (Without bots), people are upvoting it, scrap.tf has lot of stock...

                      8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...

                      Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!

                      They're not even a damn day old!

                        Yes, so 8.33 ref is not in the price range.

                            "Quicksales have never been accepted into the price suggestion" So you're basically just repeating what I said before. We're all aware 8.33 ref sellers are quicksells. You're acting like backpack.tf and key prices are on the level of some government conspiracy. It's a game. If the economy favours the "commoners and the richer" surely what you're saying is everyone benefits, what's wrong with that?! You're just switching the subject to backpack.tf being corrupt with no real evidence or validity to your argument. Also there's no need to spam your first comment 3 times.

                              Sssh, I watched enough x-files to know the conspiracy, and that spam was not made by me, I only made one comment.And it's wrong because I have seen legit and good suggestions get denied of the same reason 'quick sales', and almost always they are not.

                                So you're moaning about 8.33 ref being quicksells but then saying you have supported suggestions that included quicksells in their ranges. This suggestion is not getting denied for the reason of 'quick sells' whatsoever. I really don't understand what point your're trying to make here. Your argument is so far flawed and meaningless.

                                  No, it's not meaningless and flawed, you just don't understand.

                                  People use sellers to lower-prices, right?

                                  In this case, the keys are getting quickly sold at 8.33, because they are sold in under a day less, ok?

                                  Then, I have seen suggestion with sellers at lower prices, which are about 2 days or more old, but people still blame them as quick sellers... do you get what I mean?

                                    I understand very well my friend, I've been on this site long enough. What I'm saying is how are those other suggestions relevant? If the suggester had included 8.33 ref in the range then fine, you're argument would mean something. I really don't see your gripe here with simply including them with the proof, there's nothing wrong with it provided they are identified as quicksells, which they are. Your first comment suggested you were against using the quicksells, which was a pointless thing to say because they were already not included but now you are talking about other suggestions where the quicksells weren't quicksells. I agree about the occasional suggestion where trades are wrongly labelled as quicksells but it's rare and doesn't relate to what you first comment was about. This suggestion is not going to be closed for the reason you've stated above.

                                      Well, trades labelled as quicksells, when they are not are pretty common mate... I check quite a lot of them, hoping to see why some get accepted and why some don't, I see people with valid proof, but get denied, I see people with in-valid proof and get accepted, other suggestions are relevenat to this because they also effect part of the economy, and are made by people too.

                                        You said:

                                        "8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...

                                        Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!

                                        They're not even a damn day old!"


                                        What was the point in that comment I quoted above? You are stating that the sales are quicksells but it doesn't mean anything because no person stated otherwise. Your comment was pointless, it didn't mean anything because the suggester had not added 8.33 ref to the range! You keep saying about these suggestions with valid and invalid proof but you haven't linked any in your comments as proof so I'm inclined to believe you're spouting bull**** for the sake of of spouting bull**** and are just arguing because 'ooo bp.tf so coruppttt QQ'. The other suggestions are not relevant because this suggestion is not flawed by having miss-labelled quicksells. A hat suggestion does not have knock-on effect for a currency suggestion. The proof is valid! You're quite blatantly not reading my comments properly and not getting the point so this is my last comment. I'm done trying the situation to you.

                                          Your comments are way too long, I try my best to read what ever you throw at me, why should I link stuff anyways?And speaking of one-side-minded, this craft hat thing now, 1.33?There are some 'craft hat' priced stuff which vary a lot, but still get called a craft hat, and this price is immovable now because you would need a sell of EVERY craft-hat listed for that ammount, and not just one but many.


                                          TL;DR : Craft hat thing is made up by the staff, no suggestions from users, your comments are way too long.

                                            off topic as to key suggesting, but if you've been paying any attention there are suggestions for the craft hat thing going


                                            (also 1.33 is/was an accepted standard for craft hat value)

                                A simple question to humble my incompetent mind, who else exists in the awe-inspiring world of da tf2 trading community besides the "commoners" and the "richer"? Thank you your lord highness

                              8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...

                              Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!

                              They're not even a damn day old!

                                8.33 is a quick sale, all of them are sold, one of them is taking 6 craft hats each as a quick sale to craft bread boxes...

                                Those are quick sales... and they are all so young!

                                They're not even a damn day old!

                                  Ok I just saw a key go up for 1 refined on the classifieds. Joke is obvious there but now I'm worried that people are only trying to support this with their key trades.

                                    i actually managed to get a few @8.22 so upvote :)

                                      Question, it may not be related, but, how do you check if something has been sold on backpack.tf?

                                        I remember the good old days when keys were 2.33 Ref. Anyways upvote, good proof, and pray that the key market restores back to its normal self.

                                          Just sold my key for 8.44 ref. feels good.

                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20585017

                                            That's kinda less sellers at 8.55 compared to 8.66

                                              That's because people are blind and go for the price that bp.tf has. They never make a price for their selves. Not alot of people buy keys for 8.66. they buy it relative to the price bp has if it's lower good. If it's higher people are like "are u trying to scam me?". Everything is based on the price bp.tf has.

                                              Trades at 8,33 Ref look kinda faked.

                                              Why do you show sellers at 8,66 Ref?


                                              Anyways, this isn't enough proof to lower the price.

                                                Fake, seriously? lol


                                                I put sellers at 8.66 to show it doesn't sell.

                                                unsolds at 8,66 ref?

                                                  Did you check the section labeled "Sellers at 8.66"?

                                                    As I said so many times, bots aren't good proof/counter-proof.


                                                    An example: I can create 15 bots, all of them with different names, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. I have one friend who created 10 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. And there I have ANOTHER friend who created 25 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. Can you use 50 trades from different bots? Yes, of course! But you can't use 50 trades from 3 friends.

                                                      Exactly why bots should be kept out of currency suggestions as much as possible, especially key where most bots are. You can't never say whether you are posting the same bot or a different one.

                                                      Both bots are out of metal

                                                        Well, I also have about 3-4 bots in my friends list that are buying keys at 8.66, but all of them are out of metal and full of keys. They will change their prices soon probably.

                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20373274#latest - If it helps any, I have bought multiple Keys at 8.44 Ref.

                                                              I know. I'm risking my next month's rep though by upvoting.

                                                              Voting does matter. If an admin sees a suggestion has 100% like my Tricorne one: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/53a16afb4dd7b898238b45c7

                                                              they'll be less hesitant to have any doubts about it. If a suggestion had 20% in favor and 80% against, you know something is wrong.

                                                              You'll never see an accepted unusual suggestion with less than 55% upvotes.

                                                                heres a fun fact almost every unusual price in bp.tf is outdated or a lot higher or less then the ones that are actually being sold on outpost and and trade servers

                                                                  Here's a fun fact, The Elder Syrup likes guessing instead of proving them with fact.

                                                                  I can assure you that most unusuals have a recent price, I would know because I've suggested 120 new prices... And there are many more unusual suggesters who have contributed a huge amount.

                                                                  Another fun fact, lots of item prices are even more outdated than unusuals, some botkillers are 1 year old.

                                                            If you look at your 8.66 ref links, some of them don't even have keys left.

                                                              Neutral, but just a suggestion:


                                                              You need more solid proof of failed sellers at 8.66. Pretty much ALL of your links atm is either poorly bumped, already sold without closing trade, or already sold.


                                                              If you get like 200+ more legit links, this suggestion may be possible =)

                                                                Lowering keys? Burn him at the stake!

                                                                  tfw people don't get the sarcasm.

                                                                    Tfw these types of comments are unnecessary.

                                                                  That's just a current price drop due to the new update - nothing special, it will go 'back to the unfortunate normal' in a few days.

                                                                      All of them are bots. I'll copy & paste from my last comment:


                                                                      "As I said so many times, bots aren't good proof/counter-proof.


                                                                      An example: I can create 15 bots, all of them with different names, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. I have one friend who created 10 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. And there I have ANOTHER friend who created 25 bots, and buy Keys for 8.66 Refs each. Can you use 50 trades from different bots? Yes, of course! But you can't use 50 trades from 3 friends."

                                                                        all those bots still have to actually resell those keys or else they suddenly won't be buying anymore. The key bots don't trade among each other because in the end they'd all have the same number of metal/keys. Key bots require non-bot users to actually trade with them to actually make any profit. Repeatedly selling keys back and forth between bots for the same price wouldn't be valid proof and that's not what anybody gives you. The bots don't trade each other.

                                                                        Solds

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450402 - 8.00

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450914 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450000 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450137 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451685 - 8.44

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450456 - 8.44

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449240 - 8.44

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449185 - 8.44

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449492 - 8.55


                                                                        Unsolds


                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451871 - 6.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451499 - 8.00

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449690 - 8.00

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451593 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452187 - 8.33

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452707 - 8.44


                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451241 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450976 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452337 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448706 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448921 - 8.55

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20444242 - 8.55


                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447740 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449456 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450410 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20412495 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448985 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20447455 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451700 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451274 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450189 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449846 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449341 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452746 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449196 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432305 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20364644 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20452210 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20091232 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451526 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20451274 - 8.66

                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20448545 - 8.66


                                                                        Besides, tf2finance values keys at 8.59 - 8.58 - 8.57

                                                                        Nice proof, but thats like 70 trades with keys out of a 1000 trades with keys. And in some of your trades it looks like they get them sold at 8.66 (the acktual price). So you are gonna need more to get the key down.

                                                                          Sad to say it, but a lot of those 8.66 sellers have sold out already, many in under a day.

                                                                          However, this show that there are people selling for lower than the current range and at the low end. Maybe a range of 8.33-8.66 could work?

                                                                              this suggestion will never pass, the price does not have a range, and their are many, many buyers over 8.55.

                                                                                Why would a range be necessary?

                                                                              Finally. A suggestion worth voting on

                                                                              Upvote

                                                                                  People are buying from your 8.66 list dude. Lots of sold out there.

                                                                                    buyers for 8 (craft hats) arnt prooving much since craft hats are ALL gonna raise with the new update where u need 3 hats to unbox the bread box.

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                                                                                          Key dropping..... GABE NEWELL HAS RIGGED THIS

                                                                                          Good proof, but neutral for now.

                                                                                            Well im glad the key price is finaly stabilizing. what was happening more and more keys where coming out, but now that their kinda stopped, people just arent willing to buy them at the current price their at

                                                                                              There is a giant demand for Hats and refined metal

                                                                                              Scrap.tf is out of hats while selling at 1.66

                                                                                              and I found 4 keys in their vaults, coincidentally!

                                                                                              http://i.imgur.com/XUHv4og.png

                                                                                              All keys for 8.66 sold, there is no longer proof

                                                                                                Isn't there a cooldown?

                                                                                                  OMG, I didnt thought that day will come, the day when I can finally UPVOTE for key suggestion make the price go DOWN. Cant belive that day actually came ;D Amazing proof, upvote for me, and if it helps I also bought a few for 8.44 2-3 days ago, and they wasnt quicksells. so I dont care how much people going to dislike this comment, this proof diserve a upvote. gl manת I EXPONET you.

                                                                                                      #UpdateHype

                                                                                                      Keys might go back up after everything is settled xD

                                                                                                      Upvote- Never though I'd have to vote for keys to go down though...

                                                                                                        They'll go back up, it 's going down because of the introduction of another key, so probably in a month it'll be back up.

                                                                                                          because metal = free (you play you get) and keys = 2.5$ from the store?

                                                                                                            Such logic!

                                                                                                              You are wrong in a way, it does cost time to make metal.

                                                                                                              they'll never go that high unless something happened and a lot of keys started to get deleted since people just wouldn't be willing to pay that much for a key. Should the amount of keys go up and ref goes down, there's a tipping point were ref will start to go up and keys will begin to fall.

                                                                                                              Jesus christ the classifieds are all 8.33 and 8.44


                                                                                                              keys are dropping, this is it, they're gonna nosedive

                                                                                                                Well, I wouldn't be too sure. There are still a lot of people selling and buying around 8.55+, but this could be a sign of keys finally becoming stable.

                                                                                                                  Scrap.tf didn't raise their prices after 8.22/8.33

                                                                                                                    Scrap.tf has been selling keys for 8.44 for at least a few days I believe......

                                                                                                                      http://scrap.tf/ has been like this almost one week or more. A lot of people has accused them for manipulation of key markets and so on they haven't updated their key prices, thats what Ive been told. Also I've been monitoring their key stocks, and that meaning their keys sells really quickly @ their price, its almost impossible to get one as people buy it really quickly off.

                                                                                                                      Nearly all of your 8.66 sellers have sold.

                                                                                                                        Lol. If you're not gonna read the comments. Go somewhere else. Over 10 times have I and others mentioned it.

                                                                                                                          I've read nearly all of the comments. Please enlighten me to this apparently secret reason you have for justifying why a price point that's not included in your range is still selling so easily.

                                                                                                                      Yes! Much Proof! Finally! Keys have to come down! A new age begins!

                                                                                                                        It's actually normal if refined metals worth more and more (against key). TF2 updates have been demanding to burn them to complete recipes, no drops for idle, and today to craft new cosmetics.


                                                                                                                        But 8.55 flat ?


                                                                                                                        Your Unsolds at 8.66 are sold:

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010 sold in 10 hours

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20432541 sold 3 within 6 hours

                                                                                                                        The following, sold in less than a day ...

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450378

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20445843

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449044

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449320

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450410

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449846

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449224

                                                                                                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20364644

                                                                                                                        .... many more ...


                                                                                                                        I'd gamble with 8.33-8.66 if I were you.

                                                                                                                            I thought you had to wait a few days before making a key suggestion unless something significant happened?

                                                                                                                              New update with loads of hype, is that not significant?

                                                                                                                                Explain to me how the price of keys gets affected now, I'm confused.

                                                                                                                                  Everyone crafting hats, ref for the bread thing, not exactly sure.

                                                                                                                                    That would be hats.

                                                                                                                                    Summer sale always causes keys to fluctuate--people sell them on the market or trade them to get games, so a lot of hoards tend to diminish.

                                                                                                                                      Ok that seems to make sense. Gotta get dem games!

                                                                                                                                        This is sorta late, but lots of ppl crafted the new weps (I tried crafting them without the recipes, lost at least two ref in weps and metal :(), the new hats (50 different hats with new low craft #s, I spent 9 ref in a yolo moment where I absolutely failed), and the bread boxes needed craft hats which had a sudden decrease as ppl bought from scrap.tf which filled the bots with too much metal, making it so that they couldn't trade, leaving you with ppl desperate enough to craft hats using ref to make the bread boxes. There. Try typing that with one finger

                                                                                                                                  If u dont know, dat hype is unstoppable. If you show every solds above 8.55, then the range would be 'a bit' other. So dont try to be somebody who you arent. Your hate to keys hype is useless :D

                                                                                                                                    good thing somone is finally posting for them to go down seeing as how if they keep going up they will get to a point where people will use some other currency or just use ref and forget about keys

                                                                                                                                        A major event/update has happened therefore cool down is not in effect.

                                                                                                                                          Okay, thanks for explaining, up vote.

                                                                                                                                        Yay vote up!

                                                                                                                                          Price...deflation?


                                                                                                                                          Good God no.


                                                                                                                                          Upvote.

                                                                                                                                            there's 1 person in classifieds selling 2 for 8 refined each, and a few selling for 8.44. Just throwin' it out there

                                                                                                                                              i am sorry for everyone to hear this, but the cooldown time has not been elapsed yet, a minimum of 3 days must be given between price suggestions for currencies... :( i am sad also but this can be done in two days

                                                                                                                                                Eh, it'll take them 2 days to make a decision, this'll be open by the time cooldown ends.

                                                                                                                                                  "A major event/update has happened therefore cool down is not in effect." -The suggestor

                                                                                                                                                  Don't care. Upvote

                                                                                                                                                    For anyone confused about the cooldown rules, you can find them here; http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2620-key-cooldown-guidelines-read-before-making-key-suggestions/


                                                                                                                                                    The cooldown rule does not apply if a significant event related to keys happens, and the Summer Sale certainly qualifies. Many people trade keys for games or sell them on the market to get steam wallet funds, and so large sales often do make keys much more common, if only temporarily. Hopefully this clears up any confusion.

                                                                                                                                                      Thanks, I was a bit confused about the lack of cool down, but this clears it up.

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474087 - 7.66

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473804 - 8 ref

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473801 - 8 ref

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473797 - 8.33 ref

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473891 - 8.33 ref

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20473879 - 8.33 ref

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20474021 - 8.33 ref

                                                                                                                                                      ^rather interesting than real proof :P


                                                                                                                                                      Yes almost all bots that are buying for 8.55+ are out of metal.


                                                                                                                                                      BUT 8.66 still seems to sell without too much hassle. And I dont see that 8.44 is very common so I'm not too sure about this. Staying neutral for now unless more proof is provided either way.

                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, none of them have metals or hardly any.

                                                                                                                                                          scrap.tf has 132 keys @ 8.44! Upvote.

                                                                                                                                                              I think that rather than being a bit behind like the bp.tf range usually is. e.g 8.55-8.66 ref whereas people are actually buying and sellinf for 8.77-8.88ref that the current range of 8.55-8.66 is actually spot on. Price doesn't need a change as although there are sellers at 8.55, 8.66 still sells as has been proven.

                                                                                                                                                                You can easily get one for 8.33 - 8.44 ref


                                                                                                                                                                8.55 ref seems to be the most common trading point now.

                                                                                                                                                                  Also, look what Wolfi said. :P

                                                                                                                                                                    "BUT 8.66 still seems to sell without too much hassle. And I dont see that 8.44 is very common so I'm not too sure about this. Staying neutral for now unless more proof is provided either way."


                                                                                                                                                                    We seem to be in agreement?

                                                                                                                                                                      Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9


                                                                                                                                                                      8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point.

                                                                                                                                                                  i agree that the price should be dropped

                                                                                                                                                                    for once, im going to upvote a key suggestion

                                                                                                                                                                    You might actually decrease key prices

                                                                                                                                                                    Upvote!

                                                                                                                                                                      Bot are buying keys for 8.66 ref then y did u put it as 8.55. Also 8.55 is sold quickly

                                                                                                                                                                        Nearly every single bot buying at 8.66 are out of metal. Scrap.tf have hundreds in stock at 8.44, TF2finance values keys at 8.50 which is pretty much 8.44-8.55 and even 8.33 is extremely easy to find if you wait 5 minutes. More proof will also be added, just wait.

                                                                                                                                                                        Scrap.tf is buying keys at only 8.22 and selling them at 8.44. They seem to constantly have at least a few keys in stock, even being the huge site they are. Although it is most likely temporary, I feel like keys might actually not be going up.

                                                                                                                                                                          The day has finally come? *Gasp*

                                                                                                                                                                            Could it be? Have we finally reached the ceiling of the key price?

                                                                                                                                                                            I went and looked about. Lo and behold sellers for 8.55 appear often on outpost. They still sell quite fast but there's more of them.

                                                                                                                                                                            The Classifieds actually have keys selling for less than market price.

                                                                                                                                                                            This is possible. I can't believe it but it could be

                                                                                                                                                                              By the gods I see more 8.33-8.55 popping up on outpost and the classifieds!

                                                                                                                                                                              Can someone who stayed awake in Economy class please explain to me why this is happening? Apart from bread requiring craftable hats to open I can't see a single reason people would need or want to sell so many keys!

                                                                                                                                                                                Well, as I see, the Bread Box requires 3 hats to be used. So people want to get a lot of craft hats and they want to quick-sell their keys for metal to buy hats => Craft hats go up, keys go down because people don't want keys anymore.

                                                                                                                                                                                Same thing happened to DotA 2 keys, too.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Would it be worth it though? Would breads join the ranks of Salvaged Crate Stranges? There's a long while till the 9th and if too many people bank on it then they'll be rivers of tear soaked bread-based weaponry heading to the market only to be sold for less than a key.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Mostly because of hype, it will be worth though.

                                                                                                                                                                                    But I do believe Strange Breads will join the ranks of Salvaged Crate Stranges and normal ones will have the same fate of normal festives.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Probably. The Mutated Milk, Mutated Cutie Mark and Snack attack do make for fun weapons. Leveled too.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Probably not, because salvaged crates were really rare and required the crate and at least one key. Bread boxes require 4 ref, and u don't even need to find the crate. But yeah, Volvo obviously had the tf2 Econ in mind for this update.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Not to mention that Scrap.tf is buying 8.22 and selling 8.44

                                                                                                                                                                                    They only set that, since the hype of Audition reels with the new taunts, and loads of people will be looking for keys, so they will rake in monay, either that or they are overstocked on keys atm :3 (highly doubtful)

                                                                                                                                                                                    Staying neutral. I sell keys at 8.66 pretty easily. However there are sellers at 8.44 though seldom.

                                                                                                                                                                                      As Plaxorous stated.


                                                                                                                                                                                      "Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9


                                                                                                                                                                                      8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point."

                                                                                                                                                                                        Read the comments.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Might be a Quicksell: http://tinypic.com/r/2sah5ix/8

                                                                                                                                                                                          He sold about 5 or 6 of them at that price. :P

                                                                                                                                                                                          Please keep the keys going down

                                                                                                                                                                                            OMG I <3 YOU SO. Upvote!

                                                                                                                                                                                              I dont have much knowledge, but these are all young trades and they seem absolutely fine to me

                                                                                                                                                                                              upvote

                                                                                                                                                                                                  How am I powerful? lol, earned ~$450 profit in a month...? I only just started reading recently.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow you earned $450 in a month? Which prize do you pick?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dat humble brag

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pssh only four hundred and fiddy? Lol that's not a lot. Btw, u just started reading? Dang, so you're like a two-year old making money from tf2? Jk lol don't hate me pls

                                                                                                                                                                                                        mother of god... im not an expert of trading but i upvote this suggestion :3, not because of the lowering...a bit but mostly on links. *i have high hope for this*

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Im gonna miss my bp value if this goes thru ;-;

                                                                                                                                                                                                            It commonly sells at 8.55 and 8.66. I think 8.55 - 8.66 is a fine range already :/

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Don't think you can read the comments. I've repeated this many times. About 95% of buyers at 8.66 are bots which are all out of metal.


                                                                                                                                                                                                              As Plaxorous stated.


                                                                                                                                                                                                              "Sales will happen no matter what the price is. I bet sales also are happening around 8.88 - 9


                                                                                                                                                                                                              8.33 - 8.44 are not common but they are happening a lot now. 8.55 sellers appear way too often and seems to be the most common trading point."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Scrap.tf has like 50+ keys for 8,44 ref. can probably go lower imo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [url]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/432658543151477620/80BC3C7FCE6704B5FAF3591ADD3BE98DAF0379E1/[/url]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I saw this guy ingame selling for 8.33. He said the message like 10 times and IDk if he sold any.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [url]http://gyazo.com/4f3bb99c48c877bbe9c87d19e8d0f738[/url] Classifieds. Not one for 8.66 or up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I seriously think the economey might be changing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think I like it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Who knew it would take a loaf of bread?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jesus people, the economy isn't changing at all lol. This is standard hype train. People want to get metal to craft hats for the new bread boxes, so they sell at lower price. This is how buds fluctuate as well. New update, new keys, people lowering the sale price on buds to get said keys. I agree that the price should be lowered right now because there's proof, but don't count on them continuing to go down

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sales at 8.66 -


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20424010 - out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20149466 - out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160736 - out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20160384 - closed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20238757 - closed/unbumped

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20206703 - closed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822 - closed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20429822 - closed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20442073 - unbumped, sold 1 at least

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20443998


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                However, 8.66 buyers are not that common - an increase is not needed for sure. Unsure if a drop is needed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Some took day(s) to sell, some weren't even sold and were just closed (not including the ones you included) and a few had interest from few days back before the update. The counter-proof is quite weak. I'll counter every link when I get the time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  There's certain exceptions, such as a major event, and with the Summer Sale here, people are trying to get rid of their keys quicker now - keys will rise back up eventually, afterwards, but yeah. Cleverpun did comment saying it's ok to suggest under these circumstances.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      8.33 is definitely doable, but I agree that it's a quicksell: people are sold out with multiple keys in about 10 minutes. However, the sheer bulk of sellers at 8.33 kinda negates the fact that it's a quicksell- I was able to get keys at 8.33 in 10 minutes with minimal searching. What's considered a quicksell key-wise today would be slow compared to 3 or so months ago- keys this far below the price range would sell within a minute, no lie. I like this conservative drop for now, but continued key drops are definitely viable in the future. Upvote.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As of 4:20 PM Mountain Time (I live in Colorado and that time is not intentionally funny), scrap.tf had over one hundred keys selling at 8.44.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Obviously this means that not only did over a hundred people sell keys at 8.22, but they're still not taken even though they are one or two scrap below the current backpack.tf key value.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Keys need to start going down, The fact that there is evidence to support it is friggin' fantastic!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            upvoat good proof but of course its good proof its by google :3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Admins, don't even think of closing yet. More proof will be added in a few hours. Also why is every single comment about keys going down being upvoted lol?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If it's right you should keep adding proof for as long as this suggestion is open, so if you state that you don't want mods to close it because you're gonna add more proof, it would theoretically stay open forever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also i don't think saying "don't even think of closing yet." sounds polite at all.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Sounded quite rude, I agree. Can't remove/edit it now though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's not true. You could easily delete your comment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              i replied about 2 hours after he posted his comment, the time to edit/delete was over.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Personal opinion > Logic


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          General mindset, every time. People want these keys down, brotha, and you can't convince them to think otherwise.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Keys are going down because hats are going up since people wanted to be a little stingy with key prices and I guess they got the hint up above.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              IT'S HAPPENING!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I like the proof you have, so upvote to the max!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There are no buyers at 8.66 in any website at all... It's happening.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                metal and craft hats went up, keys went down, a good day for trading

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  SUPPORTING PROOF


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Since you need sellers to drop a price...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Selling for 8.55

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185387[/url] appears to be out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19876226[/url] appears to be out of stock

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20469486[/url] appears to be out of stock

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Selling for less than 8.55

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20296814[/url] appears to be out of stock

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    With scrap.tf having them at 8.44 each, why not.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        read what the mods say

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If you want to convince all tf2 traders to see keys as 3.66, be my guest.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Say you got 90% of the people to see keys at 3.66, it wont change that most of the people want to transfer metal to keys, all the 3.66 ones will sellout instantly and the other 10% won't have a problem buying for 8+ ref.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Since people can get key from the people convinced they are 3.66, they will try to buy those asap, where keys will be soldout and people will start selling for higher, where they still sellout since people have currently no problem buying for 8+ ref. All it would do it is give it a short time to get keys back to this point, where they probbably will continue to rise at a higher speed than now because they already had a huge momentum for going from 4 to 9 ref.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            can't click on the agree button. need help

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=mann%20co.%20supply%20crate%20key&page=1 - first and half of the second page is selling for 8.55 ref

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I literally looked up every single seller at 8.55 ref on outpost.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Selling for 8.55 ref:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20530749 - sold

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20508667 - bot

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20403549 - out of stock

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185387 - out of stock

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20464224 - out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20513749 - "Will lower price to 8 ref if 8.55 ref is not possible"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19770518 - 8.44-8.55, out of stock

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504907

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20502993 - bot

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20496597 - out of stock, restocking

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20406401 - bot

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20453546 - 8 ref?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20450976 - 2 bread boxes or 8.55 metal (costs 8 ref to craft 2)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19443258 - out of stock, restocking

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                i approve. also, lots of people sell their keys at scrap.tf for 8.22. keys are worth so much metal these days that a few scraps become really insignificant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It did once. Then immediately shot up .44 after 2 days

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          keys are only down because of summer sale. people need cash to buy games... once that train has sailed, get ready for a ref or so increase in key prices, just like winter last year. I think 9.0 is a good number if it stays fixed.... valve should make 9 ref craft to a key, and be done with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, the thing is,ppl need money to buy games, so they would sell on community market for money, and not for ref right? Or are you discreetly implying that ppl buy the cheap keys that ppl are selling on community market ( for money for games) and since its cheap they can sell at a cheap price right? And also, I highly doubt Volvo would allow you to craft 9 ref into a key because keys make them a lot of money (how many keys are there in the world? Multiply by $2.5 and I bet they don't got taxes :). And even if you could craft 9 ref into a key, that doesn't mean that a key will stay at that price cause other wise, all hats would be 3 ref, as it takes you that much metal to craft right? Of course, the ceiling is definitely going to be at 9 ref but still, trade tf2 community is gonna lower prices of those keys (just like how they lower the prices of those dirty hats that cost like $7.50. Sorry if this sounds oppositional to you, mah 7th grade English teacher taught us to argue well :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It would help them to remove a ton of metal from the market, making ref more valuable. I think valve wants this if the bread weapons are any indication. I don't see how 9 ref to a key affects the price of hats? the hats are a side market, you cannot smelt hats into metal(or can you?)


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know backpack has a history of trying to keep the SCM out of suggestions and what not, but if you don't think that people are using that to their advantage at a time like this you are blind. I've been playing the arbitage game for months, and have doubled my bp value in that time(even against the sliding ref value), while acquiring about 10 new games for myself, and providing friends games for cash(about 50$ to date) at cheaper prices than steam can provide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I agree with this suggestion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This suggesstion is not accurate. It should be 8.44-8.55. I have bought hundreds of keys recently at 8.44. But it's the update hype, they'll go back up soon enough.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just a thought: Craft hat prices should go up because of this as well. Why not bump the price of refined metal while you're at it too? They're correlated, and everyone's after refined metal nowadays.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But surely if refined goes up then the price of a key in comparison should drop? its a common theme for keys and ref to fluctuate respectively I.E keys go up and the price of a refined drops. Or have i gone n' got this all wrong aha

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20548354 thats another guy selling for 8.55, he got ALOT in his stock.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  thats in the price range now as he want 8.55 plus 1 weapon

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20549663#latest I am also selling for 8.55, upvote for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Their is TOO Many Sellers Who sell it at 8 ref ~ 8.55 ref but now no buyers/selling at 8.66

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lol this is interesting. And it makes sense, new update, ppl trying to (A): Craft new weps, (B): get low craft #'s on the like 50 new hats, and of course (C): Bread Boxes, which is mostly bread hype (strange bread bites selling for almost 5 bucks on SCM. Almost given up hope on keys but hey, maybe Volvo wants to help the tf2 econ. Ok waiting for the trolls to attack this comment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          There's hope? While I'll agree that this proof is good, it will only set things back for like 2 weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So changing to an upvote for now

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lol i like you're vids man derp :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            good proof upvote

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Sold another 3 keys for lower then 8.55 each. http://i.imgur.com/82WVn0E.png

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Also bought another 3 keys for lower then 8.44 each http://i.imgur.com/ekWX3hk.png

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually, I sell so many keys for 8.55 and lower, and buy so many keys at lower then 8.55, I dont have time to post it all ;_;


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              TOTALLY UPVOTE FOR ME

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  By the time this suggestion is accepted (or a better one is made), keys will start going up again... Moderators, why are you so slow to react?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    key might not be rising but i dont think is dropping because a lot 8.66 sales still happen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bought 3 for 8.33! Upvoted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If possible, try and get some screenshots of your trade history so it can be used as supporting proof

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ok, so this doesnt let me upvote this suggestion but it lets me downvote, seems legit, guess im not voting.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Edit: Miraculously i can upvote now, wonder how that happened ay.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            same happened here

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That happens when the suggestion gets a high percentage of upvotes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is an Outpost thing. I go on a trade server and buy for 8.33 all day. Bought around 10 or so this weekend for that price and I think 5 from outpost asking for that price. Players needed the ref for the update. Only think not really making sense is the serious drop in buds on this site compared to what it costs in $ for buds. What I pay for keys if backed into the going rate for buds is about 18 keys.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Dude that's really true about the 8.33 thing. I remember going on a trade server and this one guys selling a key 8.33, who then lowered to 8.22. Same thing on another server. And the new update hype so yeah. One thing that I don't get is that, ok, so ppl have a demand for keys, right, and not so much for refined (except recently, as ppl have crafted metal to get the new weps, to get low craft #s, and craft hats for bread boxes. There is a huge supply of ref, and yet you have to buy keys with money. But how would that really affect yourself?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ok sorry for all that spam, my ipad lagged out sorry I don't know what happened dont hate me please lol but genuinely sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Holy shit! Keys prices GOING DOWN?! I though I would NEVER live to see that momment!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Upvote upvote! Dammit! Why can't I upvote multiple times?! I'll be calling my buddies to upvote this!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Why the hell hasn't this been accepted yet? If it was a suggestion raising the price it would've been accepted already

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Fortunately, this hasn't closed yet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Though, I'm sure it'll close.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  and heres multiple bots that pay 9 ref for a key http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791434005858/events that is all

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Scrap.tf's keys got raped. Not sure about this price

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Already voted up because keys dropping in price. This has been in wait for days

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        After discussion from the moderator team, it is clear that keys are very easy to purchase for the suggested price. Normally buying keys for metal can be an uphill battle, but the massive demand for craft hats (thanks to the bread box) has changed that.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        While there are sales for 8.66 and higher, the abundance of keys available for 8.55 and lower warrants a small decrease.