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The Merc's Muffler
Submitted by CeresiN
~2.06 ref
Unique Merc's Muffler
284 votes up
164 votes down
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It takes maybe a week or two just to sell this item at 1 key. It requires a small conservative drops as it is still pretty valuable. As you all know, bp.tf is a major hub for price checking and where people advertise their items. So it's no surprise when you advertise an item here you'll go with the suggest price. However, as you can see from the adverts here on bp.tf, only TWO are following the 1 key price. EIGHT are below, and two are even painted. http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Merc%27s%20Muffler/Tradable/Craftable


Sellers Below 1 key.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18535104 - 1key or 7ref(7 ref is below 1 key)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/727237 - 7 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18575551 - 7 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18574028 - 6.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18573605 - 6.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18573026 - 6.66

http://bazaar.tf/trade/726241 - 7 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18559618 - 6.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18553351 - 6.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18550445 - 6 ref!!!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18547777 - 7 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18540041 - 6.66


Unsolds at 1 key.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18225705 - 18 days, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18475951 - 5 days, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18571855 - painted gold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18529896 - 2 days, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18527065 - 3 days, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18557972 - painted gold, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18531028 - 2 days, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18186957 - 19 days, painted, auto bump.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18529454 - 2 days, auto bump


Just so many the list could go on. I have found many sellers that are selling below 1 key.


In fact, there are many PAINTED merc muffler which go for just 1 key. Many of these are actually expensive paints as well. Ranging from purple to as expensive paints such as lime/pink. Which still sells for 1 key!


As you can see, there are many sellers at 6.66-7 refs. With a few cheaper ones being the exceptions, they are probably quick sells.


So my proposed price drop would be from 0.9-1 key. Just a small drop to make it more accurate.

    I believe you will need more proof for your low end. 0.9 keys is approximately 6.33 ref and you only have 2 links for that.

    I guess this is "counter proof" 2 are kinda old but meh ; http://imgur.com/a/CFZfw

      Which is why I left it at a 0.9-1 key range. I'm not totally eliminating the possibility of selling it for 1 key. I'm just proving that it does sell lower than 1 key.

        then you would need quite a bit more proof of sale @ .9

          What? This is a vote to drop the items price not raise it. I have shown sufficient evidence that people are selling it for less than 1 key. If you can sell the item for 1 key, why would I need proof of sale when there are already people selling it for less? There is no common sense in your comment...

            I could say the same about yours, why would we no need proof of sale at the bottom of a price drop? Youre trying to lower the price with no solds at roughly .9 (being roughly 6.11-6.33 atm)... There is really no point to this.

              Sigh. I see you failed to do a conversion of 0.9 keys before even saying its 6.11-6.33. Like I said, this is a vote to drop the price, and not to raise it therefore there is no need to show proof of sale when you evidently could sell it for 1 key, and there are people selling it for sell. Why would people stick to buying it at 1 key when there are people selling it for less? You are pretty much saying people should only buy it for 1 key despite there are others who are selling it at lower.

                You saying you dont need proof is like saying you can change a price when ever you want (which is what youre trying to do right now for fake internet point on your profile ) You gave proof of 2 people selling at your price of 6.33 (which is .9) thats two people that could have been quick-selling. This is unreliable info youre going off of and Im wasting my time arguing so I wont do so anymore.

      I don't think lowering the price of the Merc's Muffler is a good idea. It is one of the coolest items in tf2, and if it's cheap, everyone will have one. This will reduce how cool it is to have one.

        That is based on your opinion and the lack of evidence on your end fails to prove why it should not be lowered. If you vote based on your opinion thinking it will drop in 'coolness' then it is not a fair vote. Your lack of integrity is disturbing.

        It doesn't take a week to sell a mercs.Usually all class items sell well and mabey they sold lower because they want to get rid off it.i do agree that people sell painted ones at normal price though

          Most of your sellers below one key have not sold their merc's. I don't believe your proof is very sufficient, you don't have many listings of a merc's muffler ACTUALLY being sold.

            Thank you. You are just proving my point. If those mercs below one key have not been sold, you are saying the price needs to be dropped further. Why don't you start your own suggestion?

          Been selling at 6.66ref for 2 days now (reduced from 1 key)

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18554111


          Decrease might be necessary but would like to see more links at 6.33ref. Good luck on your suggestion. ♪

            I bought 3 or 4 merc at the price of 6 and 6.33 ref. It wasnt that hard selling it at 1 key so the range is fine for me.

            http://puu.sh/7yX1o.png 6-6.1 ref bought , sold 1 key

            http://puu.sh/7yX42.png 6.33

            http://puu.sh/7yX6m.png 6.33, sold 1 key

            http://puu.sh/7yX9Q.png 6.1 ref

            http://puu.sh/7yXcB.png bought for 7.22 so 1 key

            http://puu.sh/7yXep.png 6.33

            All my trade have been done in 1 week and I still have more but I think this is enough I showed selling for 1 key and buying for 6-6.33 ref.

              proof of you quickbuying doesn't help the suggestion .-.

                Well, there is sufficient evidence. Within a week there were several purchases and sells. And as proven, 6.33-1key is an acceptable range. I personally think Louis got lucky selling em at 1 key, because I took forever. But it does show it's still possible, and it does show people do sell them for 0.9 keys.

                  not my point? my point is him showing he's buying close to 6 ref is just quickbuying, it doesn't help the suggestion... :|

                    The fact that he can get several mufflers at that price within a short period of time is evidence that it is not quickbuying anymore but instead, has become a norm price for people to sell it at.

              Most of the evidence clearly says quick selling. Also, there isn't really much proof of the .9 low, But I do feel that maybe this needs a drop.

              Up voted.

                this item is so overtraded (always 20+ pages on OP) as it`s wanted generally. As most of your sellers are either sold or badly bumped u could get the idea it is "quickselling" compared to the huge amount of items on the market. It`s a border case, also items with craft # are generally harder to sell.

                  meh back to this, 6.33 looking like a quicksell from the two links you provided, both sold in a few hours or so

                    Votes are conflicted, and too many concerns in the comments that there isn't enough trades at the low end to support it being in range. Either more links to clearly show that 6.33 isn't a quicksell or a better vote turnout would be needed here. With neither, this suggestion just can't be accepted.


                    Closing.