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Insert Opinion, Output Results? Right?! NO.
I spent so much time going through these trades.... ugh.Young Trades (Within' Last 24 Hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18128882 - 6 Ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18126973 - 6 Ref. (7 Hours. No bumps.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18126185 - 6 Ref. (8 Hours. No bumps.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18123278 - 6 Ref. (No Bumps after 12 Hours.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18118202 - 6 Ref. (Possible Sold.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18117363 - 6 Ref. (Possible Sold.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18117272 - 6.55 Ref. (Poorly Bumped.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18132881 - 2 ToD (6.66).
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18132237 - 1 Key.
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10037857 - 1 Key.
- - - - - - - - - - http://bazaar.tf/trade/697243 - 1 Key.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18131680 - 1 Key.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18129833 - 1 Key.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18129453 - 1 Key.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18125317 - 1 Key.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18133087 - 1 Key.
Quick Sales within' 1 Day.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17651167 - 6 Ref. (Made 2 Weeks. Sold 2 weeks.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18128831 - 6 Ref. (Within' 4 Hours.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18131980 - 6 Ref. (1 Hour.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18115420 - 6 Ref. (Within' 12 Hours.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18113308 - 1 Key. (Within' 12 Hours.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18112431 - 6 Ref. (Less than 1 Day.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18108811 - 6 Ref. (Less than 1 Day.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18108440 - 6 Ref. (Less than 1 Day.)
Normal Traders (Who don't have shops selling paints) (Solds are mentioned on the right.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17898398 - 6.33 Ref, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18074000 - 1 Key, 2 Days. (Sold 1, 3 Left.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17846937 - 1 Key, 1 Week. (Sold 1, 2 Left.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18077425 - 1 Key, 2 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18074727 - 1 Key, 2 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17868449 - 1 Key, 1 Week. (1 Confirmed Sold.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17911618 - 1 Key, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18107553 - 1 Key, 1 Day.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17974204 - 1 Key, 6 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18077425 - 1 Key, 2 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17973403 - 1 Key, 6 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17766459 - 1 Key, 2 Weeks. (Sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18075518 - 1 Key, 2 Days.
Paint Merchants (Consistently Sells Paint. Can Be Solds.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12864529 - 1 Key, 7 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17162456 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16805811 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17856189 - 1 Key, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17833443 - 1 Key, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17094130 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14464633 - 1 Key, 5 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16983949 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17218024 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17930889 - 1 Key, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16537478 - 1 Key, 2 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17324324 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17972642 - 1 Key, 6 Days.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17462086 - 1 Key, 4 Weeks.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17878442 - 1 Key, 1 Week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17603376 - 1 Key, 3 Weeks. (Out of Stock)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17784839 - 1 Key, 2 Weeks.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14492225 - 1 Key, 5 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17749235 - 1 Key, 2 Weeks.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14931108 - 1 Key, 4 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14724565 - 1 Key, 4 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16986749 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17761341 - 1 Key, 2 Weeks.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16573349 - 1 Key, 2 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12228331 - 1 Key, 7 Months.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16668279 - 1 Key, 1 Month.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10355010 - 1 Key, 9 Months.
http://dispenser.tf/trade/77164/ - 1 Key.
(Do I dare say any more?)
Classified Section (If you even want to use this...)
6 Refined - 2x (13 Hours)
6.33 Ref - 1x (1 Day)
7 Refined - TOO DAMN MANY TO COUNT!!!
Conclusion?
While there are some that can be sold for 6 Refined, there is a larger majority of people buying them for 1 Key / 7~7.33 Refined. Maybe because of the paint sellers or the merchants? Who knows?! Most of the 6 Refined buys has been within' a small window of time to be considered as a young trade or a quick sale. While the others has been a poorly-bumped trades or someone that's just generous and has horrible luck at selling. (Okay, cut the speculation shit.) It may be enough evidence, it may not. I believe it has enough cutting edge to bring it up for a debate, but I wouldn't be surprised if this gets knocked down.
If you have counter-evidence, speculation, or have evidence to provide, then please do so! This is open for debate!
mayhaps a range is in order?
Maybe 6.66 Ref to 1 Key. I might re-suggest later if there's a correlation, but let's see how this thread goes for now.
Also, Hostyyyy's proof will be counted here:
"upvote man!, need some proof? i can show you from my trades in february, ok?
(Feb 1) - http://puu.sh/74Hep.png (I sold a B.M.O.C for 11 Keys and Lime paint)
(Feb 7) - http://puu.sh/74Haz.png (1 Key)
(Feb 8) - http://puu.sh/74H8Z.png (7 Refined)
(Feb 14 s2) - http://puu.sh/74H6A.png (1 Key)
(Feb 20) - http://puu.sh/74H3I.png (1 Key)
I sold +10 so far like 3 months ago
This could be useful. Cheers :D"
Source: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/530771f34dd7b853598b4568
are paint shops valid actually? I can't remember the official statement on this
edit: woops commented in the wrong place D: but still, the question stands
I'm not entirely sure, but they are helping inflating the price.
Thanks for the quote, it's a valid proof i think.
I sold one for a key earlier today. Not sure I could make a picture of it though...
not many of your normal traders have sold
Not many, but it's likely that the merchants / paint shops are eating up those sales.
That's why I mentioned them in the thread. They're getting sales.
if this is any help: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17856189 . Found myself under your list over "Paint Merchants" ive sold around 20 lime over the last 3-4 weeks for 1 key / 7 ref each (restock when nessecary). It is very rare the buyer make a comment on my trade, they usually add me right away. ill try get some screenshots up from some of my resent sales to support this :-)
upvote i sold 4 like in a hour for 1 key
Why is this suggestion still going?
It shoulda' been accepted
Straight Up,Upvote!
They need to be bumped up, I have sold 7 for 1 key and 2 rec in the last month.
Thanks for the research bro!
The overrated lime shit.
Upvote, though.
Hey, I feel offended. :(
Very rood. Much offended. Wow.
Don't feel offended. I just find kiwis better than limes.
:3
Heh, kiwis are green too. :)
It's the inside that counts right?
No, no, no.
Kiwis and limes have a very distinct color.
Kiwis are tasty aswell.
Mindblown
good.
I see general interest in lime paint for your new price, I do strongly believe that the Normal item traders, with the lack of display/bump's do distract from how many buyer's they have.
While the shop's for paint, seem to have a higher rate of selling chance's are from better display/bump's more often.
Up Vote.
Lime is fine for decour, but for gods sake, not for reading, it strains the eyes.
...im pretty sure that was the entire point of the paint...to burn everybody's eyes...
Does Pink as Hell do the same? Or is it just Lime?
Lime burns the eyes in real life too
Really? I always thought Most of the neon colors burned the eyes.
lime's the worse, ever tried pouring lime juice into your eyes?
Why would anyone do such a thing?
"Withing"?
meh, I only sold one for 1 key from 2 weeks.
Now I just sold 3 for 2 keys, blood banker, and 2 ref. I suspect it's because of this suggestion...not sure.
I honestly don't see why an item that's worth less than a key on the Mann Co store would be worth a key.
Exactly why I'm upvoting.
it was less because of the winter sale, when it was 50% off i think
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52b7df564dd7b8e95e8b456a
Correlates to when the 50% sale happened. I think most of those discounted paints are out of the market by this point.
http://i.imgur.com/CCskSUs.png Sold 3 myself for 1 key each in the past 2 days. Also had 2-3 buyers that offered 7 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16986749
Last time I sold a pink paint was 2-3 weeks ago. Am I unlucky, or why can't I sell at 1 key?
Selling under 1 key in the first outpost page:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16524908 6.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18228508 5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16668279 6.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15649664 bp.tf price (6)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18170234 6
Not so hard to find under a key.
6 ref - 1 key would be better.
counter suggested at this range
1) Bot that I didn't seem to find at all.
2) Quick-sale.
3) I didn't see that one when I was looking through the other day. (Not bothered to go past 10 pages of auto-bumped ads.)
4) Didn't see this one either.
5) Fairly young, but good proof.
Resuggestion is possibly needed, but I'll let this run for the sake that 7 keys is quite dominant.
SELLING/SOLD FOR 1 KEY
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/2990647 - 1 Key + 1 Rec
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18074000 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17324324 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17911618 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16573349 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12228331 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18251804 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17517461 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17603376 - 1 Key ( SOLD OUT )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18230714 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17761341 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16109187 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17766459 - 1 Key ( LAST ONE )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18183841 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16576811 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17267612 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18176683 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16986749 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18230129 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17966798 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18081043 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17022550 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15238048 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16693694 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17983825 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18201530 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17333786 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17329709 - 1 Key ( NEARLY 30 SOLD )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17294575 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17462086 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15622162 - 1 Key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11930664 - 1 Key
+ Loads more that I just don't have time to list.
SELLING/SOLD FOR LESS THAN 1 KEY
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17945276 - 6.666 Ref (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16534822 - 6 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18228508 - 5 Ref
My first price suggestion so feedback appreciated!
i tihnk is a very good proof, i saw it, upvote, xD, you have no accepted suggestions and a excelent proof, continue making suggestions
needs more range
I beg to differ. About 95% of those discounted paints should be out of the economy by this point.
It sells soooo easily for 1 key. Proof below, thanks to trade.tf. Solds at 1 key:
http://bazaar.tf/trade/706920
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533120507
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533124083
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18279356 (not in a bp anymore)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18279538
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10045468
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533124083
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533099057
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533091767
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533061528
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533061531
All links of solds within last 24 hours
Definitely upvote
not solds in your "sold proof"
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10045468
http://bazaar.tf/trade/706920
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18279538
same seller & not sold
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533061528
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533061531
same seller and sold
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533099057
http://www.trade.tf/trade/533091767
Emmm I dunno even what to say. Okay, I'll try my best.
1 is sold (obvious)
2 sold, not in his bp anymore
3 sold a couple, not all of course, trade.tf proofs that cos it tracks items from bp
4&5 paint merchant, he's got lots of lime paint and these are the solds
5&6 1 seller, 2 solds, what's the point? It doesn't matter who is the seller, matters that we've got 2 solds.
1. not sold... not in bp 2. not sold it is in bazaar bots bp. research "buy now " on bazaar. 3 you cant prove he sold some. 4-5 are once again in bots bp for "buy now" 6-7 one sold. he only ever had 1 paint.
All I was doing was breaking down your proof. there is no need to argue over this
Upvote
Good evidence