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Here are the only definite, traceable sales of this hat:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17269464- Sold for Billycock Aces-High

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17538304- Sold for blizzardy storm gridiron guard and blizz letches led

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17584867- Sold for Miami Night Jeepcap Sound


Blizzardy Storm Gridiron gang is a flat 2.1 buds and the blizzardy letches led is 1.5 to 2.3 buds with a median of 1.9 buds which bring the median total value of trade to 4 buds in unusuals which minus 10 percent is 3.6 buds pure.


Miami nights Jumper's Jeepcap is 3.3 buds to 3.8 bus with bp.tf suggesting 3.6 buds median. The median value of the unusual minus 10 percent is then 3.3 buds buds pure.


Unfortunately the billycock aces high does not have a set price. There is only one person selling it on the market and they are asking 5 buds pure for it. Since we already have the required two minimum traceable sales required and those have definite prices, I suggest just ignoring this one for now, although if in the future a price is established on the billycock aches high, we can modify it.


Besides the two or more required sales required, this range seems to fall right in line with what the two people currently are selling the hat for on the market, in the 3.5 ish bud range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17960070

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17843695


Your input is always valued. Please leave additional information in the comments. It seems like we finally have enough points to nail this one down. Setting the high value at the higher value of the confirmed trades 3.6 buds and the lower value at the lower value of the confirmed trades, 3.3 buds.

As you pointed out, the current b/os are 3.5 or less so you should cap the top at 3.5.


The gridiron price is old and there's one on OP for 1.5 buds.

Letch price is outdated and they are available for 2 bud b/os so that is probably overvalued too.

Miami jeep cap is also old and there are 3 bud b/os so it's also overvalued in all likelihood.


I have to downvote based on this proof/valuations provided :(

    Thank you for your input. I will have to disagree with your "proof."


    There are plenty of people selling hats on outpost for either far above or far below the bp.tf price range. The fact that the only two people selling the hat are looking for exactly within the price range is an argument for the price range not against. I didn't bother to post all the links of all people selling that I couldn't confirm the price sold, but they are all in the 3.5 to 4 bud b/o range.


    These trades happened in January, comparing the current selling value of the hats involved in the trades that are a month old is either poor logic or being actively deceitful. Until the price of a hat has been updated (only through research, multiple data point, exclusion of quicksells, and community vote), is it truly relevant.


    Case in point, should I set the upper bounds to 10% less than the current trading price of 5 buds for the aces high billycock, so 4.5 buds pure, because that is the current state of the market (as observed by me, and not confirmed by the community)? No. That would be irresponsible.


    Setting the lower bounds to what you believe the current trading price of other hats involved in trades that are a month old would be equally irresponsible. Especially since they are once again not confirmed prices by the community.

      Just letting you know how things get valued. Old prices aren't allowed to be used unless they appear to reflect current market prices. You are basing your valuations off old prices on unstable hats that can be purchased for less than what you are saying they are worth.


      To your point:

      "These trades happened in January, comparing the current selling value of the hats involved in the trades that are a month old is either poor logic or being actively deceitful. Until the price of a hat has been updated (only through research, multiple data point, exclusion of quicksells, and community vote), is it truly relevant."

      It's more deceitful and illogical to price items off clearly outdated prices. That's why you are supposed to do miniPCs when using old prices.


      This stuff isn't my opinion, it's a pretty established practice. I'm moving on from this one, good luck.

        Case in point, should I set the upper bounds to 10% less than the current trading price of 5 buds for the aces high billycock, so 4.5 buds pure, because that is the current state of the market (as observed by me, and not confirmed by the community)? No. That would be irresponsible.

    Can someone please accept this already? This hat has existed for so long and doesn't even have a price, let alone an outdated price.


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      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18246206 - b/o 3

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17960070 - b/o 3.5

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17843695 - b/o 3.5


      Solds

      (1) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17627501 - b/o 3.3, sold for dp jeepcap + sweets; certainly no higher than the b/o of 3.3


      (2) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17538304 - blizz gridiron has an 8 month old price with multiple b/os at 1.5 and even more at 2. that should be valued no higher than 1.5. LED also has an old price with b/os at 1.5-2; that sale is no more than 3 after overpay


      (3) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17584867 - the jeepcap also has an old price with multiple b/os at 3 and should be valued no higher than 3


      It also sold for a MN l'inspecteur which has an outdated price and the billy with no price


      The reality is that all of these hats have outdated prices and all of them seem to have declined significantly since they were priced here. I'm not seeing any sale definitively >3 in value. And really, none of them should be used until these other hats are updated.