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Then what's the point of buying these
not to have to chase after spy weapons to craft it yourself
scrap.tf
I know, I do that myself. Buying Spy Weapons, crafting to Slot / Class Token and then selling to the WH for 0.22 to get the needed number of items sold for my next tier. But that is not the point.
edit: if anyone is wondering, I am not calculating the WH price by the price of a Scrap at the WH, but rather by items / keys.
Mostly for people trying to craft sharp dresser. They were also used to craft Quackenbirdt so they spiked in price, but not anymore.
tell me about it: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6518547
True, but now it's actually a better option to craft scout melee weapons. (three rune blade, unarmed combat, etc.)
I knocked myself out. It hurt afterwards.
Links proving unsold?
There is no need for proof here. You can get 3 spy weapons at scrap.tf easily so price for you is 0.16.
But if that still sells for 2 scrap, then you are wrong.
You always. ALWAYS. need proof.
You can sell weapons for 1 scrap if you are lucky. Everybody is scrapbanking at 1 scrap per weapon. That doesnt mean we will list them here for 1 scrap, we list them as 0.05 for the same reason.
scrap.tf is going away soon :(
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8132009
You sir, just made my day xD
They will always sell for 2 scrap like any other token but they get listed here as 0.16 too. Also weapons get sold at 0.11, but they are listed as 0.05.
But not sure if the demand of these is low enough yet. The spy weapons at scrap.tf get bought quickly too. I'm deciding to be indifferent for now.
@OP: Could you provide proof of availability @0.22 and how long it takes to sell vs. normal tokens on OP?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8143201
has 5 up for 10 hours @0.22; at least 3 unsold - not sure if he did sell 2 of them.
So, they are sure not selling like hot bread and butter anymore, so this suggestion my be right.
the tokens are worth more than the weapons, find at least one seller for .16 ref. Scrap.tf is not proof of tokens because tokens are sold for more than weapons, sometimes weapons are worth more than tokens too, for example here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8157629
i think a token should just be worth a token. you can just go to scrap.tf and buy three spy weapons for 1.6 scrap, which is how much three weapons should cost.
You need proof. Downvoted.
Or just common sense.
This wep page is based on proof, Not on common sense.
Go on scrap.tf, buy 3 weapons for 0.16, craft it yourself. There is your proof. Just because people are trying to sell this for rec that doesn't mean it's worth that much when you can easily craft your own cheaper. People are selling weapons scrap each - but we still list them here for 0.05. This is the same example. Also, I can't believe I have to explain this.
Anyways You need proof. Just look at Everyone's comments.
You can craft this yourself for the listed price because weapons are easy to get. There is no proof needed here.
you could say the same about vaccinator, just a wep, but it`s still 0.11-0.22,
against 242 +votes
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/510162c4ba2536d911000000
If you cant tell difference between Vaccinator (rescue ranger, loose cannon, unarmed combat, sharp dresser...) and other common weapons, I don't think you understand what are we talking about here. Vaccinator is still pretty new weapon, of course it's still not the same price as other regular weapons.
i knew this would come. new, of course. you didnt get the point of proof needed.
Here, first page, first post sold 2 for 0.22 today
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8143201
yo
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7673319[/url]
Here, I just sold veil for 2 keys. Should I just make new suggestion for price because of lucky sale? [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8129335[/url] Here, somebody sold guillotines for scrap. Should we change the price? Of course not. My point is - It's easy to get 3 spy weapons in 1:1 trade [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/179kop/h_weapons_w_11_trades/[/url], or from scrap.tf for fair price and craft it for 0.16. That's the value of this token
I've sold plenty of these at 2 scrap. Scrap tf may have spy weapons, but they're often out of stock on those. Common sense is lacking in tf2, deal with it. Just look at the vintage soldier stashes.
And I can sell weapons for scrap but we still list them here for 0.05. It's the same.
I dont even...
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Upvote. .22 makes so sense at all. It's 3 craft weps.
Somebody doesn't know how prices work
interestingly, suggester makes sense and all the veterans don't know what they are talking about. spy and PDA2 tokens are 0,22 because of quackenbirdt, which was like, 10 internet years ago. now PDA2 can still be high, because there are only 2 weapons to craft that (but i just checked scrap.tf, there are no cloak and dagger, but 3 dead ringers. enough to craft a token) but spy token... is there a reason for it to be expensive?
I guess it's because of the sharp dresser but I see no other reason than that.
These can still sell at 2 scrap, altough not that often, prehaps a range should be better?
Sales at 2 scrap:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7597319
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7924994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7744690
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8143201
I havent found that many unsold, and i'm not too sure what the time it should take to consider an item "Unsold"
i bet you would find almost any token sold for 2 scrap. weps are being sold for 1 scrap too.
sell like hotcakes dipped in Gabens own butter tub.....on servers outpost has .5 buyers failing to mate!
Okay, look. Just because it takes 3 spy weapons to craft one of these things, which would equal 0.16 (or so), doesn't mean that's going to be the asking price.
If it was, we need to readjust the price of all craft hats so they are a minimum of 3 ref each because it takes 3 ref to craft a random hat.
Explain me why are (almost) all weapons 0.05 and other tokens 0.16 then.
Takes two weapons to make a scrap (0.11) and the other tokens aren't as sought after as Spy.
People are willing to buy Spy tokens at 2 scrap. I, and just about everyone on this site, do not care what it takes to craft an item - that doesn't determine its price. What determines its price is what people are currently buying and selling for.
That is stupid explanation based on nothing and you know it. I can sell weapons for scrap each if I try - so I should make suggestions for every weapon to set its price to 0.11. [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8129335[/url] Here, I even have a proof of guillotines selling for scrap so that would make sense right? Of course it doesnt. But it makes sense for you, so go ahead and make suggestion for it, i'm waiting.
Please make suggestions for every weapon to change their price to 1 scrap. It'll take some time and your rep will probably take a hit, but who cares about rep, right?
By the way, you've heard of reverse scrap banking, right? I'm sure you have because that was the basis of your argument for why this should drop in price.
You know, I think I should make suggestions for tokens to be 2 scrap instead of 3 weapons. This guy says he sold over 300 of them at 2 scrap: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7996180
Lol, go ahead.
I will, but only if you agree to make suggestions for every weapon to be a scrap.
Nah, that was your idea. Not taking that one from you. It makes sense for you but it doesnt for me and I obviously wont make suggestions for something that doesnt make sense.
Well if this suggestion makes sense for you, maybe you should consider making suggestions for craft hats at 3 ref.
Oh, and another reason I can think of as to why this is .22 and not .16 like the others:
Sharp Dresser.
People are still crazy about trying to craft that thing.
Unarmed Combat and Rune Blade for scout. Token is still listed as 0.16 on site.
what you're missing is (because you ARE missing it)
1) when this token was 0,22 (days of the quackenbirdt) you couldn't find that many of spy weapons in scrap.tf inventories. i just checked, they have 90 spy weapons right now, INCLUDING 12 clocks
2) you can sell any token at 2 scraps a piece, just as you can sell any weapon for 1 scrap a piece. that doesn't make their price that
3) you can buy craft hats at 1,11 refined. that doesn't make their price that
there are some rules of this site, and this token (maybe PDA2 too) is breaking it
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8143201
I hate voting based on logic, but this MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE. It's the same as selling a weap at a scrap, but listing it as a weap, like people mentioned above. Also, on scrap.tf, ever since the new items came out, tons of spy weaps flooded the inventories, so they aren't rare there anymore.
this is tricky; the suggestion is 100% logical; there is absolutely no way someone can dispute your reference. on the other hand, we have the market value. Now, since the market is shit and the economy is horrible, imma side with logic on this one and upvote.
All tokens sell for 2 scraps. Quackenbird hype has calmed down, no need to keep this so high.