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~3.7 keys
Genuine Dashin' Hashshashin
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    this doesn't seem to be enough proof (For example, you do not acknowledge THIS trade for 3 keys...) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25600416

      also, since when do buyers reflect the price? (your second buyer also closed his trade and he has no genuine dashin hashshashin in his inventory-safely assume that he did not successfully purchase one for that price)

        Buyers for 2.6 means it needs to be removed from the range. Why should I acknowledge a trade that isn't in the range?

          Why would a buyer at LOW END (which logically makes sense, as they wish to save refined), MEAN THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE RANGE? And why the hell not acknowledge a trade that isn't in the range? It suggests that your seller at 2.7 may be a quick seller and that the range needs to be increased, not decreased! It shows that your proof isn't nearly sufficient enough to drop the price. There could be buyers at 1 key, and that doesn't support anything! Only use sellers to support a drop, not buyers

            1. Most buyers are quickbuyers. Meaning if there are buyers for 2.6, then it must mean that it sells too quickly.

            2. Its not a quick seller cause it took 3 days to sell

            3. Proof isn't nearly sufficient enough? I raise you my most recent suggestion: ttp://backpack.tf/vote/id/55365d1eb98d88d62c8b53a6

            4. Buyers can't support a drop? I raise you this: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55333449b88d88695a8b6887 1.5 was removed from the range cause of a buyer.

            5. Why should the price increase if it can't even sell for 2.7 quickly?

              1. It does not mean that it sells to quickly. Most buyers are low ballers, not quick buyers. Nice illogical statement. Because most people would want to save refined. Also, if they were quick buyers, why haven't they bought any yet? (2 WEEK OLD TRADE WHILE OTHER IS CLOSED AND HAS NONE IN INVENTORY!)

              2. If he isn't a quick seller, than your buyers are definitely not quick buyers.

              3. Your link doesn't work. And not nearly enough sellers to suggest a drop.

              4. 1.5 was removed from the range because of the sold, nothing to do with the buyer at 1 key. Buyers can say that they want to buy at the lowest possible price (lets say a scrap) and their trade offer wouldn't mean anything. Sellers are what show the actual price, and you only have one for this proof.

              5. I was stating a rhetorical, since you have not nearly enough proof to support a drop. You don't even show the other sellers for higher and they are a lot common than your suggestion. Downvoted because you don't reflect the market and don't have nearly enough proof.

                Nice disliking, I hope it helps "Downvoted because you don't reflect the market and don't have nearly enough proof."


                Your previous suggestion ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5533f0b8ba8d885c3b8b45ad ) was closed.


                "This suggestion was marked as no evidence and closed 3 days ago. No evidence was supplied in this price suggestion, therefore it has been closed. Please read up on how to create a suggestion before creating a new suggestion."


                Don't tell me how to do something you clearly can't do.

                  People learn. You obviously don't. I had more evidence than you so you shouldn't be talking.

                    You had no valid evidence, hence why your suggestion was closed, this one is perfectly valid.


                    Quality > Quantity

                      how is there any quality in this suggestion? there are only 3 trades provided, and none have been successful. How would buyers for a low price be any proof, if the sellers don't match the price? This item is at a fine price already, and this suggestion is unnecessary. The only way I would support his claim for a drop is if he found more sellers/solds for that price. And what are you talking about no valid evidence? I fixed the links 10 minutes after I made the suggestion because I read the formatting guide that said to put "[url]"around the urls in a suggestion, and had to edit that crap out. How was my evidence any worse than his, if he has no solds whatsoever?

                        Quality.exe = http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5533f0b8ba8d885c3b8b45ad


                        Again, try to find more proof. And, no, 3 key unsolds don't count. They're not even in the range. Also, your 3 key sale only sold for 3 keys in items cause of item overpay, if it actually sold considering the owner history. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25565183.


                        I don't learn? You've been disproven by two of the finest suggestors in this site, yet you still go by your broken logic. And I'm the one who doesn't learn? Hmm kay then. #FinestLogic #It'sTheInternetSoI'mNotSurprised

                      Tell me, if my suggestion is wrong, then why haven't you countered this yet with your "valid proof"?

                        because I know that it wouldn't matter trying to prove something to a thick headed person besides showing the rest of the people that see this suggestion how corrupted some of these suggestions are, those that don't even acknowledge the greater majority of the market and just manipulate the price based off of a few, unrepresentative individuals. Anyone who actually cares enough to see how right I am can see my suggestion here http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5533f0b8ba8d885c3b8b45ad

                          How do you care if you're providing wrong information? And I'm the one who's thick headed. You've been disproved, your suggestion has been closed. Take it with the mods or the forums if you have anything to complain about, but don't blame me if you don't get any supporters. This suggestion is valid, yours wasn't.

      Seller and buyers =/= solds

        You don't need solds/sales to lower the price.

        Your point?

        I don't know what Tyrant is saying.

        But this is for the rest of you who believe him.

        Buyers at 2.6 means 2.6 is low, and that's why it's being taken out of the range.

          why would buyers at a low price suggest anything besides that people want to save refined? stupid statement if you ask anyone with logic

            If you don't understand, your own problem, if there are buyers at 2.6, that shows it is low.

            Buyers buy for lower and resell for more. So you make no sense.

              "Buyers buy for lower"-exactly! So why would buyers buying for lower support a drop, if buyers buying for lower is typical? So you make no sense

                You're the one who makes no sense.

                The buyer is buying at 2.6, which means he can remove 2.6 from the range. But there is also a seller at 2.7, which means it also needs a drop, if you're trying to argue, atleast have valid points, jeez.

                http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55333449b88d88695a8b6887 also supports my point.

                  Sellers:

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25520843 3 keys

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25326922 3 keys

                  If a buyer buys for lower, than the price of the item is higher than what the buyer wants to buy it for. Use logic before saying I don't have a valid point, jeez. 2.7 keys is an outlier

                    Other than owning one and not wanting to get your backpack value lowered by a wee amount, is there any reason why you don't want this to lower? Also, if 2.7 is an outlier, then why haven't the 3 key sellers have sold? 1 month and 3 weeks unsold... Meanwhile, this guy's selling a Dashin' w/ free paint for 2.7: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25737453 GG

                      you have three trades on outpost as proof. not nearly enough evidence for a drop. If this suggestion goes through, it shows the admins of this site only what genuines down in price. And I made that suggestion to increase the price of the dashin before I bought mine, so completely irrelevant to what I am saying here. I find it ridiculous that my suggestions with 3 times more evidence than yours gets closed within 5 hours while yours is still around with almost no proof whatsoever. I see corruption and that is why I am still here

                        1. It's sufficient enough, if I have to show you my previous suggestions, you'll be surprised.

                        2. In what way is this website "corrupted"? Your suggestion has invalid proof, hence it was closed. Don't blame mods for closing an invalid suggestion.

                        3. Again, Quality > Quantity. While yours has more proof, most of it is invalid to raise a price. You need sales or buyers at a higher price.

                        4. Disliking won't help.

                        5. I cannot stress this enough, resuggest if you think you're right. Not my problem if its closed again.

                          *cou----

                          http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5533f0b8ba8d885c3b8b45ad

                          ----gh*


                          You clearly know what you're doing here, but the Surs and S > 2 Unusuals are right, the buyers are there to prove that 2.6 is an invalid range due to it being practically automatically sold.


                          It was actually kinda disappointing to see how many users liked his comments before the wave of dislikes came in.

                          Unless he's trying to look like a fool, i'd classify this as a troll,

                  uh cause we're removing the buyer's price from the range.

            UPDATE

            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25812951 - seller at 2.75, young

            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25809561 - seller at 2.7, 2 days

                Check his backpack, the 2.75 seller still has his. But at least you finally commented something that isn't nonsense.

                  Please inform me how the 2.75 seller still has his, when he has none in his inventory? screenshot it please

                    http://steamcommunity.com/id/PyroMetic/inventory/#440_2_3667546189


                    None of the said items from the trade (Sub Zero Suit and the other Pyro hat) are in his backpack, nor 2.75 keys. Should be good.

                      regardless, he doesn't have the item anymore. If he did sell it for the genuine doublecross, then it was for a 3 key value item

                        Then its obviously overpay :P I don't know if applying overpay on normal items is the same as Unusual overpay (i.e. multiplying 0.9 to the non pure item) but if you apply overpay on 3 keys, or multiply it by 0.9, its comes out as 2.7.. which only proves me right.

                          yet it still has paint, so why would overpay matter if the paint added the same value to the item anyways?

                            Pretty low tier paint, probably won't matter.

                              still adds 2.5 ref value

                                adds like 0.1 keys.. but it should be good

                                  2.8 keys then

                                    Why are you that stubborn when you're obviously wrong in all those comments? Geez.

                  MOAR UPDATEZ

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25817145 - seller at 2.7, 1 day, reposted by the same guy who was selling for 2.7

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25796562 - seller at 2.4, poorly bumped

                Update

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25870879 - unsold at 2.8, 1 day

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25796562

                  Seller at 2.4 keys, as you mentioned earlier, is now valid and unsold for a week. I guess a range is good.

                    Forgive me if I' 'm wrong but don't you need unsolds at 2.9 keys?

                      no sellers at that price, actually