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19 key Failed / Opportunist / Slow Buyers ( Lots of ref in stock, with occasional or no keys )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25509083
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24708323
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25557263
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25536732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25390518
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25469515
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553835
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530504
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553976
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25537318
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555723
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553361
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530050
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24809580
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24777858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25002848
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25469515
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25536153
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25557069
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553203
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25515699
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25494315
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23987074
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24073277
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25490189
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25545944
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25557875
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25558739
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24910905
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25498128
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25526758
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25529974
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553288
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25556742
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25502981
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559187
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24925246
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25545563
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25560554
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25520556
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25430517
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25546383
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561920
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25562163
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25449946
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24473725
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23780348
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25230056
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561884
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25550164
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23902384
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23850730
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25377891
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25551819
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25533170
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25462074
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25352474
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559086
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553979
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25562049
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24992955
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24939336
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555076
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25285706
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25562020
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25530527
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25547800
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25488157
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25558191
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559883
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25549514
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25484646
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561891
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25560635
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555100
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561413
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25415754
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25424849
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561599
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23729495
19.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25551489
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25556781
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24449069
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25553012
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25538927
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25556946
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25428170
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25524117
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555253
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24939502
19.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25155171
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25499806
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25463293
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25515307
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25352474
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25558866
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23867950
https://scrap.tf/keys -- [ http://imgur.com/uS08sKs ] - 1000 keys
19.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23988919
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25515145
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25517555
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25549055
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25482781
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555796
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561464
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25561354
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25550772
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23919542
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25476909
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23954284
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25559301
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25236611
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25543675
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25547695
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25358622
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24305218
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25549171
19.44 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25560097
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25155171
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23798941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24423454
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25560111
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25511478
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532616
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25560120
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25534725
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555912
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555087
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24937190
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25532616
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25539690
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25555141
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24963530
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/wDYQbV2 - 29 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/tImfcQE - 27 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/ftcqOxr
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/Wxi4xH1 - 16 keys
19.55 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25486125
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25065144
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25161275
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25550509
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25442470
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25527358
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25154252
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25324652
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/crnRbHd - 41 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/lS5TgEP - 5 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/eo6BoOU - 13 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/3c9DUwE - 19 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/KotMzhE - 25 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/ECCdMKQ - 19 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/jvo2fZH - 16 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/IksQ28F - 23 keys
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/HDjIgXG - 8 keys
19.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25258464
http://www.trade.tf/mybots/buyers/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key - http://imgur.com/N7qoQSQ - 13 keys
Have a good Easter everyone !!!!!!
Your 20 refs aren't buying anymore.
>White belt.
>Key suggestion.
>Has proof.
What... What is this madness?
Upvote ^_^
He, is a white belt god.
*Looks in bp -- over 350 keys.
Figures why he's pricing our economy.
Hold me, I'm scared (>'-')>
Scrub I got 335 keys :3
Seems pretty good, upboat
Great proof. I'll upvote.
Are you very, very, very, VERY sure people play TF2 only for the keys?
And that millions stopped playing it recently due to the keys?
I am very, very, very, VERY certain Valve would make such an announcement if they noticed such a thing.
G A B E N
But is it true. Do you think people are happy about keys being so high? Valve will make such annoucenment very soon. He and other people really are the reason why people stop playing TF2.
If you don't believe me : http://steamcharts.com/app/440#All
The people which are leaving are the ones which should have gone away, actually. I am pretty sure other more mature and sensible people (or people that really don't care about virtual economy, or even yet, people that don't know much about it) will get playing some time.
The amount of people there can be playing videogames (or a specific one) is not limited nor stable. As for the decrease, it is not going to be a dramatic one, because it's impossible for keys to get to such a high price as, let's say, 35 ref. The people leaving, as i have said again, will be the ones that actually had to go.
I am not going to like nor dislike your comment, as a decrease in players due to key price is actually possible (But, i repeat, it will NOT be sudden, quick and neverending, but nearly continuous, very slow and will end somewhere).
Downvoting only because you don't like that he has proof? Cool.
Also, i am laughing out loud. while you were typing this, keys were up on Backpack.tf for18 ref .-.
true market was getting back to normal regarding the key price had the occasion to trade some i was late though... wait did i said keys were getting to lower price again? no way ! so lets f*ck the economy more by suggesting a new value rising.. yesterday learned us nothing. so sad...
nice going mate! Upvote )
Up-vote. I'm surprised that Keys went up this far. But Amount of Proof doesn't lie.
Glad that this suggestion has a sufficient amount of evidence, and isn't one of those "let's bring the keys back to 3 ref" trades, or "it should be 20 ref because i think it should be" suggestions. Us in the marketplace praise you.
Upvote.
I tried to go into classifieds to see if they showed evidence of this. The market is flooded with sellers at 1 weed. Since you did not provide any proof of sellers for weed, I will have to remain neutral.
the weed emoticon is more stable than ref, it is always worth at least $4.20
Nice suggestion, I completely agree.
Not going to say anything about that 320 keys owned.
Good suggestion :) buds cease to exist, keys will be the new bud...
Keys... will stay keys.
This "X will be the new Y" saying does not go with everything.
In fact, buds technically were never currency, they were promotional items given to whoever played TF2 prior to The Mac Update. Since then, no more clean ones could be created.
"Not going to say anything about that 320 keys owned."
Says something about the 320 keys he owns.
Exquisite proof. One of the 19.55 buyers is now actually buying for 19.66 even http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25161275.
http://i.imgur.com/R62aztP.png - 19.66
http://i.imgur.com/Iill6a8.png - 19.33
just thought I'd add a little support
im really happy there is a key suggestion that has proof upboat.
I sold one for 21 ref, guy sounded pretty desperate to get one.
Soapbox suggestions result in bans.
rules in bp.tf said what is valid proof. youtube isnt valid proof.
Sure, downvoting will indeed change the outcome of this suggestion and will not only decrease your voting rep on your profile.
/sarcasm
What does scrasteriskasterisk mean?
You don't seem to understand. A key will always be less than 2.49 (1.75 or so from paypal). TF2 is perfectly playable without buying keys, so they are just a luxury good.
you don't have to be rich to spend $2.5
Also the key isn't increasing, refined metal is decreasing. Actually, if you're into hat crafting like I am, the increase in refined to keys ratio makes things much better. You could buy a key and trade it for like 16 craft hats now, compared to the 2 craft hats that keys were worth when I started.
It has nothing to do with what we want. People are just willing to pay more metal for a key. The buyer has that power to change the economy, not the suggester.
Evidence is plentiful
People are just downvoting these because they want keys to stay low -___-. Correct me if I am wrong.
Keys seem to be raising simply because ref is decreasing.
Ref is decreasing because the game is out for longer and more ref is being generated by players getting items.
Keys are based on money since they can be bought from the Mann Co. Store, The Steam Market, or with Paypal (Or other third party services)
Ref also can be based on money and since there is more of a supply and less of a demand on Refined metal, it is lowering in price.
So, since ref is lowering in real world money price and keys are staying the same real world money wise, of course, the keys would be raising in price when being bought with refined metal!
#Idling Killed the Economy!
Up-vote for the amazing amount of proof!
What does Jesus got to do with anything?
Up vote!! 19.55 is a good price, because I can open some crates and to find some stranges of 0.33. XD
Yeah you can find a Strange Kritzkrieg which is OBVIOUSLY worth 0.33 :P
Very extremely hard
if there are people buying for 19.55, then keys should be worth more
this is solid proof, not price manipulation
His backpack will still be worth the same amount if/when this suggestion is accepted, so you can't really say that he's getting richer.
Before (key = 19 refined): 320 x $2.5 = $800
After (key = 19 - 19.55 refined): 320 x $2.5 = $800
@ TooMuchGarlicLuigi You need to learn a fraction about economics and at least common pricing sense before comments like that. Also, the new price has nothing to do with his desires of prices.
If you know how to play the market game, you end up doing pretty well. Capitalism is a free market, you just have to know what to do next to get up in the world.
I can always count on currency threads to have a few dozen people who fail at basic economics.
No matter how down I feel, I can at least take solace knowing that my ability to understand supply and demand is a sign of rare intelligence, apparently.
Thank you based Gaben
buds used be 1 - 28 keys (max price)
I saw buds at 32 keys a long time ago.
But thats beside the point. If people are buying and selling keys at 19.55, then shouldn't this site show that people are buying and selling keys at 19.55? Shouldn't we be transparent? No?
Well keys are taking over so.
Why am I seeing you here
Why Are You Typing Like This? I Dont Get It
Its not backpack.tf fault for destroying the economy its the people who don't care about loosing barely any profit and buy keys for a specific amount faults either way you have a good amount of proof and its accurate upvote!
I sold 5 keys for 19.44 in scrap.tf, upvote
Screenshots please?
Uumm sorry, but how do I do that, I'm not that good
Nvm I know how to do it
Got it
http://imgur.com/zYjRihu,hGgg1fw,8A5ko76,1jMNhE7
http://imgur.com/zYjRihu,hGgg1fw,8A5ko76,1jMNhE7#1
http://imgur.com/zYjRihu,hGgg1fw,8A5ko76,1jMNhE7#2
http://imgur.com/zYjRihu,hGgg1fw,8A5ko76,1jMNhE7#3
Unless earbuds pull a Bill's and go super low, there's no chance that a key will be worth more than a bud.
Ever.
Finite v Infinite
Let's talk money! You see how keys have risen up on backpack.tf, a suggestion site.. This is indeed breaking the TF2 economy BUT the reason is because you are making higher hats go down, and are easier to get, let's use the most common example.. BUDS, they are a cosmetic yes... but they are also used as currency, saying that they are not is contridicting them because buds are used to buy unusuals still, even if you see a reduction, it is still being used. This being said.. it is easier for newer players to improve, improving somewhat a basis for attracting newer players, but also making hats go down in price can.. slow down the older-players from making everything into.. keys or just retiring, All in all, Backpack.tf is a Suggestion site, and we should use it for that purpose only, not a exact price for every item in the game. TF2 players are taking it onto their selves to be a somewhat Exact price on every item, so.. Let's just slow down on voting stuff up quickly and enter the concept of a site ONLY for suggestions with somewhat realistic reasons of doing.. so. But it is in part TF2's community's fault in taking this in part for using it for the actual prices.So the only way of undoing-so is to.. enter that concept directly to tf2 to stop the fuss about the site.. and how it can be used in particular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GgflscOmW8
Do you understand the basic concept of "supply and demand"? Basic Economy?
yet another uprise to keys. how much higher could it go?
Technically, unlimited.
320 keys...dayumm
Its sad to see the only thing youre doing here on bp.tf is raising keys and lowering buds.
ohhh heeey, the guy wich trades normal items on unusual trade servers!
ohhh heey and you are the guy who keeps raising their own unusuals.
wutt???? are you dumb or what
this is falling apart
please don't do this xc