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Hello everyone, having a spooky Halloween? ^_^
http://tf2finance.com/keys/ : 9.75 Refined
Classifieds when Suggestion was posted : http://backpack.tf/stats/Unique/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key/Tradable/Craftable/0
0x 9.66
1x 9.77 - 4 Hours Old
3x 9.88 - 1 Hour Old
5x+ 10 - Young
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Buyers at 9.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23455869
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23264536
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23429499
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461251
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458032
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23418529
Buyers at 9.77-9.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22794124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23339645
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21637006
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460694
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23442869
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23431266
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22924749
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23459874
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23441494
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460694
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456127
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23191373
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461673
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22117464
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21599956
Buyers at 10
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22449774
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23448366
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23455648
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23436728
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Solds at 9.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461591 QS
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461497 QS (x6)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461489 QS
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461484 QS (x8+)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461178
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461171 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461145 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460829 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460705
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460646
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460407 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460041
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458933
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458282
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458186
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457951 (x5)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457930
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457819
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457763
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457681 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457355
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456435 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23455974
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467506 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467232 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466710 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23464364 (x4)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476241131
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476221758
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476222795
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476124563
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476124235
Solds at 9.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460549
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23459292
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457353
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467415 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466875
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466339
Solds at 9.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458330
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458265
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457882
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456862
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457517 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457462
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456500
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23468065
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23464195
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476232835
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476222467
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476142260
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476128773
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476130417
Solds at 10
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461509
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23461459
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460972
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460800
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460462
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460342 (x10)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23460225
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23459455
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23459197
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23459126
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458698
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458674
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458323 (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457770
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456519
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456230 (x3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456196 (x?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23468082
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467750
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467471
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23467378
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466996
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466499
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23466407
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23465752 (x22?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23465593
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23465507 (x4)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23465170
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23464956
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23464685
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476218856 (x25? SOLD OUT?)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476225544
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476231480
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476233718
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476220239 (x4?)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476220471 (x?)
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476221763
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476224483
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476225407
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476128389
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476129664
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476129422
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476133635
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476124245
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476126077
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476125698
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476126353
http://www.trade.tf/trade/476242330
Solds at 10.11 or Higher
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458753 (10.11) (x1)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456866 (10.11) (x1)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23468305 (10.22) (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457077 (10.33) (x1)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23455813 (10.33) (x2)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23458149 (11) (x1)
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Conclusion : 9.66 ref - 10 ref is the most common trading point at the moment.
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Add : 9.66 ref happens too much to be excluded from the range.
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Add 2 : Almost under 24 hours on here. Interesting amount for the Halloween / Day of the Dead rush!
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Counter, Support, and send feedback! Thank you everyone for viewing this suggestion.
PS: Thank you Plaxorous for helping me out! <333
Nice Proof Dude Upvote :D
Good proof (Unlike my last one, i didn't know, first suggestion :3) UpBoated.
You Gotten Plenty And Really Good Proof and Nice Job For a First Suggestion. Upvote :D
Bias is present here, few of the hundreds of recent 9.66 sells listed. Yesterday I bought a couple at 9.44. Outpost doesn't have a closed trade search so I cannot look for them.
But upvote for my reputation, as that is all that matters here sadly.
You obviously don't know how this website works, it reflects the market's common trading points, if a key is being sold for 9.66 refined - 10 refined and even higher then 10 refined, it DEFINITELY needs to increase in value here.
No, this site dictates the prices, even if not intentionally. And it's because of people buying then selling keys that keys are going 'up'. If people stop buying keys and trying to sell for a scrap profit, keys would stop going up. lol @ all the 16 year old 'economy experts' in these threads. le supply demand amirite
LMFAO so, now I'm a 16 year old economy expert? No. I'm a 17 year old who talks to mods about why and why not a suggestion is to pass, and multiple times am I told this website reflects common trading points. No need to be butthurt about me telling you you're wrong. Also, by implementing age into this just explains how reasonless your comments are and how you think you're the kind of the world. Also, outpost doesn't need to have a "closed trade" search, it's called trade.tf please ask questions before you assume.
im gonna cash out before the key market falls down..
Are you kidding me? HE HAS 4 OF THEM PRICE MANnIPULATION! jk upboat! Nice proof there m8! :D
Dat proof 0_0 Upvote from me
Yo YO You all know #Road to 10 Ref!!! {Upvote} {Excellent Proof By the way}
Sold 1 for 10 ref yesterday, so yea, upboat
Looks good,upvote :)
Keys are going up like there's no tomorrow. Anyway, upvote.
I highly doubt keys will go past 10 keys, by the way. Hopefully, it will stabilize at around 10 keys, and maybe even fall eventually.
10 keys? Do you mean 10 refined metal?
Lol, yeah, i meant 10 ref. Sorry. :/
I remember when people said it wouldn't go up more than 5.00 or 7.00 or 8.00.. Don't be naive..
Hopefully the key will stay at a solid price of 10 ref.It will be easy to count multiple ones together like 10 key is 100 ref but when its 9.66 it takes some time till you get how much ref that's in total.
Btw upvote.
We can't be sure of that, we don't know how demand will affect it after these holidays. I do think they won't drop so badly anymore.
Sooo many people said it would be solid at 5.00, 7.00, 8.00 and even 9.00.. You better not get your hopes up! Soon when the cooldown of the key prices ends they'll start somethin' like 10.22~10.33..
Great first suggestion! :D
Anyways, have been selling them for 10 ref ever since they changed price 3 days ago, upvote.
9.66 was a quicksell three days ago, easy upvote. Superb quality of proof, by the way.
Nicely done.
now itll take me a year to save up for key ;-;
But nonetheless the proof is legitimate Upvote^
Kickass proof man, nice layout, you got my upboat!
If the market values keys at 2 buds, then we will do our best to reflect it here. We don't tell the market what to do; the market tells all of us what the prices are, and we just try to consolidate that into one place.
Also, keys will never, ever, be worth 2 buds. Lol.
I think he was joking.
http://imgur.com/N0BAe4y
http://imgur.com/zJdBPNu
http://imgur.com/lh5nOM0
http://imgur.com/uda1thA
http://imgur.com/3QdvWaW
stop saying 9.66 is a quicksell. i bought these in the past 2 days alone.
Those don't show whether 9.66 is a quicksell or not. They're just trades. A link to OP might determine whether or not they're quicksells.
it's a buying trade dude; http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22915255#latest i'm almost certain that it wont help you in any way.
A buying trade can help help a suggestion for increasing a price, this suggestion is increasing the value of a key.
>white belt
>gets help from plaxorus
>everyone upvotes
wut
Never said anything negative about that. My mind was just blown because it's nobody special, it's a first-time suggestion.
Stop what? Reflecting the market? That's all this is. We aren't causing keys to rise; rather, we're recording that they have risen. Go yell at the market if you're upset.
Well, actually "we" the people are causing keys to increase in price, everyone is charging more and more as they go up, soon enough the buyers will stop agreeing to pay these prices and soon enough, the sellers will realize shit, we aren't selling them anymore, then they'll lower their prices, and keys will go back down. TF2 is a market economy, which is what I explained previously to this sentence.
*10/10, bro. IMDb does 10 stars. Lol I'm such a nit-picker. It's awful.
This prices dont have any senses. When you make it 10 ref it will go up on 10.33 then it will go 10.66. then 11 and then it will go even higher. BTW You have solid proof.
Because maths. BTW, upvote from me :3
The keys being traded now ($2.13) aren't even as much as it is in the Mann Co. Store ($2.49), and that's where people always buy them.
I suggest you read this: http://tf2finance.com/2013_03/ about key prices.
So the answer to the inflation is idling, craft hats, and the updates adding better stuff? Well. That answers everything I needed to know about why we're doomed. Thanks. Not being sarcastic or offensive to ya. I always did wonder what was the issue to all this. Correct me if my assessment was wrong though.
We're not raising keys; the market is. We're just recording this change.
i love that 0 there :3
double digits!
ALL ABOARD THE 10 REF TRAINProof... is really good. Upvote. You took notes from Plaxorous and others, I see.
Upvote from me!
Have we gotten to the point where we just go through key suggestion comments for stupid comments?
Most probably. Then we have an increase of suggestions pleading "plox kee proice dawn".
Amazing proof for a key suggestion :) Upboat, time to board the 10 ref ship!
well, 10 ref is really expensive, and that was my opinion, your last comment, was stupid, because you started attacking with no reason
10 ref is expensive? You must be crazy, that's actually really cheap. It's only $2.16 which is less than mann co stores prices, I've never even seen the the community market go lower than that so be happy that it's not full price yet
Telling someone to kill themselves isn't the way to respond to something like that. Also, if you're getting sick, blame the economy, not backpack.tf :)
im getting sick, i hate see how the key is rising
Backpack.tf simply records the changes in the market. You did say 10 ref is really expensive? No reason to cry about it. Maybe suggest for keys to down? If you can find proof, that is.
less than 9.66 is hard to find
That's because the demand for keys is much higher, resulting in people buying for higher prices, and THAT results in a price change. If you need more info about keys, please refer to this article: http://tf2finance.com/2013_03/
You destroyed the "need proof" rule. An easy yes!
Remember the titanic sank, but in my description it went up to upvote the yellow key.
:( And the key goes higher...
You know that guy that suggested 14 ref? I have a bet with him that it won't.
Absolutely fantastic proof.
dat's bad now for buy a key we selling lot stuff
so freaking hard to find a key for less than 10 ref right now.
yep, 10 ref seems to be the price now
yeah. kinda sucks now that they used to be merely 1.33-1.44
qq
Just today there were like 5-6 classifieds for 9.66 ref so just no.
VERY VERY NICE PROOF Upvote :D
Good Poof upboat Sold 5 Keys For 10 Ref Each Yesterday
Agreed, sold mine for 10 ref in 1 bump, upvote here
Woah, a good ammount of proof xD
Every time there's a valid key price suggestion, I prepare for the waves of idiots in the comments asking backpack.tf to please stop raising the price of keys...
Anyway: The proof looks good; there's enough trade links to satisfy the range, and more importantly, the solds are extensive and accurate. That's pretty much all that's required here, and you've done a commendable job.
In response to many people's thoughts about key prices eventually dropping ~ that will only occur when the economy and playerbase itself declines. Right now, we have a growing playerbase, which means that more people want keys and therefore key sellers can charge more due to a larger market and a higher availability of metal. It's absolutely a little sad to think back to the days when newbies could trade into keys after a few hours of idling, but it's pretty obvious that in the long run, the rise of key prices is a good thing. It raises the value of items in REAL WORLD money, which is hugely significant.
Like I said, fantastic suggestion, and I hope it gets accepted.
Bloody brilliant, upvote.
#roadto10ref rolls on
9.66 seems dated already. 9.66 goes too quick
10 seems to be the low and 10.33 is more on the high side
Still upvoted even though this WILL be outdated in a couple days
I have 2 say tha we should increase the refined price back to 0.25 cents and rise keys to 10 ref and that should NEVER CHANGE. the math: 0.25x10= 2.5 1 key=2.5$. so the connection is a normally priced market/shop price would be this, 10 ref
Well placed proof. The vote has been sent to the heavens.
Downvote - price manipulatiion
*gets a disguise kit and throws a cigarette* Oh please.
It's natural for people to have keys. It's a currency. If it was a craft-hat, in which the supply is infinite and there are a lot which is impossible to attain all (or just really difficult), then we can accuse of price manipulation. Is this unusual trader supplying sufficient proof for Buds to decrease? Yes? Oh he has Buds! Never mind!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23480876#latest
Sold a key for 10 ref within few hours.
Upvote.
Regarding to my fat stack of keys, it is not your concern as I am an avid trader just like everyone here, just because I have a page of keys doesn't mean I am manipulating if keys are being sold and priced. I am not selling keys, I am doing other trades. Check my rares if you want proof.
a page of keys really isn't that much if you trade in unusuals, pro killstreaks, or higher end commodities. the only reason to have metal on most days is simply to make fractions of a key. Anybody with more than a couple of keys really is mostly unaffected by the price of keys in ref.
Very nice proof, upboat