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Unusual Noh Mercy Burning Flames
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Please Check the Comments Below for Proof! Sorry about that! Fixed the pricing!

So for the first time in a few months a burning noh finally came on the market, I was obviously very interested! So I added @_Hng to discuss a possible cash offer (Chat log and screenies in links below) I initially offered around 75 buds in cash ($2550) but that eventually rose to my final offer after we he set his b/o to 110 buds and we negotiated down to $3060 (90 buds at $34 per bud). He then got the noh signed by stabby before we traded (hence the gift wrap) We agreed upon that price and voila I bought the hat! Since this is a gifted Noh, it can most likely be assumed that a clean one would go for even more as well.


Links

The Original Trade: [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9920932[/url]

PayPal before I sent the money (Personal Info censored): [url]http://postimg.org/image/rxgn3jend/[/url]

PayPal after the money was sent: [url]http://postimg.org/image/udighdwq1/[/url]

The actual trade for the Hat + my extra Giftwrap: [url]http://puu.sh/2zLIG[/url]

The Noh mercy in trade (wrapped): [url]http://puu.sh/2zLJ0[/url]

Trade Completed: [url]http://puu.sh/2zLK9[/url]


Chat-Logs

Paste Bin of the Entire Chat, Including Screen Shots (@_Hng's Personal Info was Censored as per his request) [url]http://pastebin.com/TPfmjMrc[/url]


Thanks for taking the time to read this whole thing and hopefully checking out all the links. Happy trading to all of you!

    "Since this is a gifted Noh, it can most likely be assumed that a clean one would go for even more as well."


    Good proof, logical statement with the assumption a clean one would go for even more. Upvoted!

        Sonic Snipe just doesn't want this to go through because he's always wanted to get one on his hands, and if this vote went through, it'd deplete his chances of getting one even more. It's been obvious you're a huge fan of the Unusual Noh Mercy's and have been going for rarer ones for quite a while.


        I am the person who sold the Noh Mercy with Burning Flames to Jewlander. I have also previously to owning this unusual, added Mattie, GVK R3P, and some asian guy with the other burning noh mercy and offered over 100 earbuds worth of stuff (Harvest Moon TC + 1 of 2 clean moon el jefe + community sparkle luger (back when it was worth around 25) + a hearts hallmark). Despite my offer which I think was well over 100 earbuds, they had all rejected my offer due to them being collectors.


        Also looking back to when I owned a Burning Flames Killers Exclusive. Before I sold it to Niska, it was priced at: 49.8-63.4 buds. AFTER I sold it for $3000 + 2 crap stranges, Niska made a price adjustment suggestion on this site which can be found here: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/504b21c29ae21ac023000001


        Now the price of the Burning K.E. is: 85.9-95.4 buds because of what Niska paid and his suggestion on this site. Double what backpack.tf had suggested. What someone is willing to pay is essentially what the hat is worth IN THIS CASE because the hat is so rare + the fact I doubt any will be unboxed soon in the future + the other fact NO OTHER OWNER IS SELLING OR TAKING ANY LESS THAN WHAT JEWLANDER HAS PAID OR WHAT HAS BEEN OFFERED TO THEM PREVIOUSLY.


        logical, no?

        Wait, why were all the other suggestions accepted at 30-40ish and this one is so high?


        Whats to say you aren't an outlier or this b/o and trade isn't also an outlier?


        Because this is fucking twice as high as this hat has ever gone before. Any offers from past sales that it can actually go this high? I've seen many people pay 1 or 2 buds more for a hat when other offers have been much lower then tried to pass it off as an "average sell price".


        Sooo hesitant to upvote. The community can't be priced based on what you (possibly) paid far too much for.

          This hat is this high for

          1. Most themed fucking hat in the game

          2. All but the single one Jewlander bought were and are in Collectors hats being Mattie, GVK, and RED or commonly known as I. Most rare unboxed hat aside from the Shaman being more rare next to the coffin kit.

          3. Common fucking sense, its simply the best possible item in tf2, and now the most expensive single class unusual.

            REASONS 1 AND 3 ARE NOT CORRECT GROUNDS FOR A PRICE SUGGESTION

            [url]http://media.tumblr.com/3d31719340c733e4182385cad8a02474/tumblr_inline_mh6nd4sHRl1qegw8v.gif[/url]


            In regards to 2, these collectors (people who are willing to spend as much as possible on these hats) never paid this much. Why so much all of a sudden now, if people never paid for it before, even people who were desperate to get their hands on this hat/misc/mask/terrifying thing.

              All I'm saying is that he's suggesting an 80 bud price increase with only one bit of evidence which is crazily higher than any other price ever paid for this hat. Redline paid 88 and sonic offered 55 I think once, but why all of a sudden 100+?


              I think 80-90 would be far more reasonable, because thats what past offers have been and we wouldn't be basing this off of this likely outlier.


              **just wanna add that it is also signed which could have further affected the price he paid.

                " **just wanna add that it is also signed... "

                ^

                Based on that you're saying the suggestion should be accepted.

                The Noh was signed before negotiations even started, the gifttag by stabby was arranged after the trade was finished. As an 'extra'.

                And it's a common assumption gifted unusuals are 25/50% less valuable than 'clean' ones, hence the suggestion, since it would be crazy to set the value for this hat on the 90 straight based on the sale of an gifted version.

            burning noh are very rarely up for trade. the clean one(s) has allegedly gotten offers around 100 even though it isnt being sold.

            however its just something ive heard.

            TF2: Collectors Edition

              110 bud end might be in question but all in all waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than old price