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Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

    A new accepted suggestion was made less than an hour ago, and this suggestion is plain bad. People did not see yet the prices, but some people are already selling for 2.77.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5762838

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4719724

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3466849

    Just wait for another day or 2 if people are really buying and selling at that price.

      Here's a really good suggestion, to please everyone, how about we remake a suggestion for 2.55-2.77. Nice, and flexible. So the people who price NEED the extra scrap can get it, but people can also get a key at a fair price as well.

        wait why will a suggestion pass even it has negative vote?

          @SquishySoap Yup, Brad (moderator) already accepted 2.66-2.77. even though it has more negative, and has more proof how that's too high. Seems kinda fishy to me, but whatever.

            Isn't someone already trying this? I'm sure keys will always be bought for 1 scrap less than they're sold for.

              You see keys that are 2.66 are all gone within seconds. I sold keys before the price update easily within mins at 2.77

              There's a lot of proof that they are within the passed range of 2.66-2.77

              This seems like you don't like the suggestion and want it lowered. For whatever reason of your own.

                In response to Liddojunior, this suggestion just plainly makes no sense to me. And I have no reason of my own to care one way or the other, however, that doesn't mean I should allow something to happen that I do not believe is correct.

                  Do you sell keys? I tried selling keys for 2.77 yesterday. People will buy them at that price. And the price range is based on what a reasonable number of people will pay for something.


                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5743134

                  http://imgur.com/EcyC5


                    Yeah, even though you don't have much proof, keys need to go down again.

                    2.77 is just ridiculous and the market would crash if that goes any higher.

                      I've been selling for 2.77-2.88. It's a sellers market. If sellers want to sell for 2.77-2.88 and buyers actually buy at 2.77-2.88, then the price is in that 2.77 range. People are mad about this price change.

                        [86/500 Vintages] |Direfox|:


                        Please, do us all a favour and go buy as many keys as you can from the Mann Co Store, grey market, corner shop, wherever you can find them.


                        Start selling them at this price and, if you can meet the demand, the price will go down.


                        While we wait for you, we have to deal with the sellers who actually have the keys and want refined metal for them. Why, I have no idea, with refined metal being essentially a free commodity, but they seem to sell keys for it, and we should be grateful we can buy keys for refined metal at all. Keys are, of course, one of the only items in the game that costs actual money.

                          To everyone who fails to see how the site works:


                          The market shows a price, the price is suggested here. If the suggestion matches the market, it's accepted. This is how it works.


                          Someone suggests a price, the price gets accepted with no evidence. People start buying and selling for that price because the site says so. This is NOT how the site works.

                            ohlookitsthissuggestionagain.jpg

                              Just let the price go up, just let it crash. What matters is we stay accurate with the market price.

                                Keys are up because people are trying to uncrate halloween effects. There's so much supply that they've only gone up by a scrap.


                                If you're that bothered by the price wait until the halloween update has ended :D

                                  brad pitt just accepts the ones that help him. that's why

                                    only reason keys went up is because people want to unbox , after halloween is over it will go back to 2.55-2.66 , for now this is good

                                      To any and everyone that thinks keys aren't going for 2.77 or that the current 2.66-2.77 isn't correct please attempt to find more than 15 keys at 2.66 (I mean physically make the trade) within an hour. Anything posted for 2.66 doesn't last longer than 2-5mins. I'd honestly support a 2.77 pure vote at this point.


                                      There is another week of this left and it'll take sometime to 'pick up and drop again.'


                                      Outpost is down to 19 pages of people selling keys for metal, of which I can only assume another 7 are redundant. In almost a year of trading I've never seen that.


                                      Go put your money where your mouth is.

                                        I'll bet you nobody will sell keys lower than 2.66 after all of this. The Halloween update will be irrelevant to anything once it's ended. This is just... inflation. "Durrhurr but what about supply and demand Praefect". Yeah, sick one. Nobody should have changed the price in the first place if demand was only going to last for a week. Weren't keys 2.33 ref once upon a time?

                                          Key price is definitely 2.66, 2.77 seems to be a price only few people use, and 2.55 is kind of a lowball yet.

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5069808 (2.77 seller)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5644237 (2.77 seller)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5785816 (2.77 seller)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5784966 (2.77 seller, appears to have sold 5)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3431377 (2.66 seller, sold out, look at all that refined in his backpack)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5521811 (2.66 seller, sold out)


                                            Like it or not 2.66 seems to be at the low end of the current price range.

                                              Keys are in high demand now. I just bought one max yesterday for 45 keys (not duped) cause his owner wanted to open a lot of crates and try to get a new unusual. The price will be 2.77 for more few weeks (or months)...


                                              Downvote.

                                                When the price go to 2.77 , people will sell for 2.88 , actually they are already selling them for 2.88 Links :

                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5776825

                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1642041

                                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5789202

                                                  As much as I dislike the change, it's accurate. I was added 10 times in 5 minutes selling at 2.66, and still sold easily at 2.77. No need for another change.

                                                    babbies first currency inflation

                                                    http://i.imgur.com/gapu7.png

                                                      Hopefuly mods are more intelligent than the average buthurtt trader. 2.77 is where the market will certainly go next week.

                                                        Well, this will only happen if you support the market to go that way

                                                          Downvote. As a small trader, I don't usually recieve keys, but when I do I just go ahead and sell then. Those days I have sold keys for 2.66 and 5+ people added me the second I put the trade up, wich is a clear indication that it's a low price. I don't like it going up too, but that's what actuaully is happening. When hallowen is over, nobody will be trying to uncrate hallowen unusuals and the demand will go down. People won't be able to sell for 2.77 and then it'll just go down again. We need to follow the market peps =)

                                                            halloween rush.Everyone is looking for keys,still 2.77 is high and lots of sellers available @ 2.66.Upvote for me.

                                                              It's still not impossible to buy 2 keys for 5 ref

                                                                These are the wrong keys to buy for halloween. Eerie keys not this one

                                                                  Every day new price suggestions about keys ... I think current price is okay and should hold up for a few days.

                                                                    hands on experience: put up a trade selling 10 keys for 2,77 apiece, 12 minutes later (that IS fast) someone bought all 10 for 27,44 (i think a discount of a reclaimed is acceptable :D he was buying in bulk, after all) so the fact that you've never seen one can be taken as a result of you not looking very carefully.


                                                                    actually, even 2,77 can be taken a bit higher, but let's wait some more before making another suggestion, shall we?


                                                                    @truckilles, afaik every unusual from every crate is a halloween one now

                                                                      I sell keys at 2.77 ONLY when someone IS SUPER DESPERATE!!! I dont go offering my keys for 2.77 either, I sit in unusual servers that im already well aquainted with people and when they need keys they look through backpacks I usually have several at a time, this guy is mad if he thinks 2.77 is a Normal price range because it is not. a key should not exceed 2.66 even if a few people try at 2.77 some people NEED keys for several reasons such as sweets or unboxing so they will resort too the extra scrap just because, BUT! this should not be a price for buying in any circumstance -downvote

                                                                        I made a new trade on outpost. I got 3 friend requests in 3 min. Everyone wanted Keys for 2.77 Ref each.

                                                                          Every time I am on outpost I am more than willing to buy keys for 2.66 but everyone is sold out. They post their keys for 2.66 and they get sold ASAP. No one sells for 2.55 and if they do its once in a blue moon. I adjusted my prices and I am more than willing to buy keys for 2.77

                                                                            I have never once seen keys selling for over 2.66 ref.

                                                                              I opened up a trade to sell my last key for 2.77, had an add for it in about 30 or so seconds. But his offer was 2.66 + 2 random weapons, didn't want to find a scrap banker. The current price range is fine, downvoted.


                                                                              Edit: http://i.imgur.com/5RBU7.png?1 , sold my key for 2.77

                                                                                I think Brad Pitt should add a feature to the site to show your rep score next to your name, so we can see what type of voters these comments are coming from.

                                                                                  Key prices will be slowly going up to accommodate the increased demand. At least until the new effects are gone.

                                                                                  If you still think keys are 2.66 or less I've covered this in excruciating detail:

                                                                                  http://www.tf2pricecheck.net/Thread-So-you-want-to-know-why-you-cant-get-as-many-keys-as-you-used-to

                                                                                    As long as I can remember, keys have always been steadily going up, but stalled here at 2.66

                                                                                    Someone might buy for 2.77 if they're desperate, but I have yet to meet one yet

                                                                                      Xen: you can suggest that @backpack.tf's Steam groups's "Discussions" page.

                                                                                      I think that voting shouldn't have anything to do with the guy who suggests. His/her text for proof should be the thing.

                                                                                        btw, i TOTALLY agree with those saying prices SHOULD stay in 2,50-2,66 range, however, you can't deny it: it's not in that range anymore.

                                                                                          Nikke: I fully agree with you. I was talking about the comment section. I want to know if trader 'xyz' who just posts 'Downvote' has a rep of +200 or -100, etc. It would give some credibility to the comments. I'll suggest it on the discussion page, thanks.

                                                                                            http://puu.sh/1kW3A ohohoho someone's really buttmad

                                                                                              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5801039 sold 7 keys for 2.77 each, I think this price should remain as it is.

                                                                                                As much as it pained me to do, due to the shortage of keys on Outpost, I just sold 5 keys at 2.80 ref each. The price should stay how it is, even though I desperately want it to go back to 2.55 a key.

                                                                                                    I always sell my keys for 2.66, so this is fair.

                                                                                                      I put up an outpost trade selling my key for 2.66 a few mins later I have literary 15 friend requests. What is this I don't even.

                                                                                                        Yeah. I bet it's gonna get even higher. And the deflation will strike some people as hard as the scattergun fiasco.

                                                                                                          Praefect:


                                                                                                          I was once able to buy about 5 keys at about 2 rec

                                                                                                          each


                                                                                                          Yes, you read that correctly, 2 REC EACH.

                                                                                                            Honestly I have been buying keys for 2,55 Refs steadily over the last 2-3 weeks. Don't know why the first price suggested was even accepted

                                                                                                              i sold 10 keys are 2.77 and then i upped the price by a weapon so it was 2.77 + weapon and sold 5 more keys, prices may reach 3 ref it looks like

                                                                                                                10/24 - 390,000+ keys exist according to data here

                                                                                                                10/31 - 350,000+ keys now exist


                                                                                                                Anybody that has looked at key numbers before knows that this number typically only goes up and sometimes levels off. In may their were something like 275,000+ keys according to tf2finance. A 10% reduction in the existing supply should tell you that demand is up. When demand goes up, so do prices for a normal, elastic, good. The shortage exists because prices are actually too low.

                                                                                                                  The problem is the only way to gather 'proof' is off outpost, the land of highball key traders.


                                                                                                                  Both key-raises in the last weeks have gone through despite masses of downvotes and comment sections filled with people saying they buy for 2.5 or 2.55


                                                                                                                  Admins, there are more places that keys are traded than outpost


                                                                                                                  no matter what price backpack.tf has them at, the highballers on outpost will always sell at 1 scrap higher and there will always be desperate people who need them fast. now that the range here has risen the key sellers will raise to 2.88 and the whole thing will repeat.


                                                                                                                  at this rate they'll be 3 ref by christmas.


                                                                                                                  stop inflating the fucking keys.

                                                                                                                    This is a supply demand issue since demand is going up and supply is goin down the prices are sure to increase, but once demand goes down so will the prices. If ur smart you would sell all your keys now, wait till halloween is over and demand decreases and then buy the keys agian and have a bunch of metal left over.

                                                                                                                      M_ICKI:


                                                                                                                      The only inflation happening is with refined metal. There aren't keys being pumped into the tf2 economy every week at the rate of # of players x 5 scraps or whatever on average.


                                                                                                                      It is simple supply and demand, and I really wonder why people think otherwise. Do you think we all want to pay more for the same item? Do you think everyone in the TF2 world consults backpack.tf to figure out the price of the items they're selling? It's the invisible hand of a free market that dictates what prices things sell for, and it's not any one person, or group's decision either.


                                                                                                                      I'm still waiting and hoping that someone can provide some sort of proof that keys are being traded at 2.66 ref, but I have a funny feeling it's already at 2.77.


                                                                                                                      Edit: An Interesting Trade: [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5812777[/url]

                                                                                                                        Damn. 491 voters. Can't wait to see how people voted.

                                                                                                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5812777#/22152315


                                                                                                                          this was a trade i opened up, seems like the buyer seller agreement is hovering around 2.82 refined per key

                                                                                                                            xen, the reason why people think otherwise is that even when the event is over, and at least 500,000 keys are in existence, and the demand drops, the price will never decrease. Why? Just look at the gradual increase of keys even after the halloween event last year, and it the keys have never been close to 2 refined ever since.


                                                                                                                            The problem is that the Halloween event gives them a free excuse to raise the prices on the keys, and when the event ends, no one will sell them for lower than the raised price. When you inflate the price of something, the key hoarders want to keep maintaining the price because they want to keep it at the price, even with the keys going to a set amount in stock, like half a million, for example. TF2 Outpost is NOT the Holy Scriptures of the economy, but tell that to the key hoarders. Outpost users LOATHE the spreadsheet, and sites like reddit, who champion this site and think the operator of the Spreadsheet is a scammer because of an incident about the then new botkillers, champion this site as the more appropriate choice. But 9 times out of 10, they refer to outpost, and everyone goes full retard on their price.


                                                                                                                            The real economy comes from trade servers, and Outpost users will try and lower my rep score for saying those words, not because I am a despicable human being, but because I am right. The outpost key hoarders prefer to hide on the site, where they will not be banned because of scamming. The keys are going up because the key hoarders will keep inflating the price, and disagree with me all you want,, but the same thing happened last year. Your price suggestion yesterday and the previous suggestion were given negative votes, even though they were accepted. This is not a coincidence. Once the prices go up, they never go down, and it is sad to say you played a hand in this, xen, since the last accepted key price was made by YOU. So yeah, if key prices do not go down by Christmas... you are partly to fault for this...

                                                                                                                              [WDZ-RR] Poncho Eastwood:


                                                                                                                              Are you fucking kidding me? You think a price suggestion I made because I could no longer find keys for 2.5, 2.55, OR 2.66 caused everyone to suddenly decide to start selling keys at a higher price?


                                                                                                                              You think I'm new? I have bought over 500 keys with refined, know which trade servers to look in, which forums to check, have all the useful tools like the Outpost toolbox userscript, and I couldn't find anything near last week's price.


                                                                                                                              backpack.tf is not setting prices! We are reporting on the current prices of items in the game. The buyers and the sellers are the ones setting prices.


                                                                                                                              Who's to say that key prices have to go down? There are users with 50 idle accounts who generate over 25 refined per week ([url]http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/11udwr/q_players_with_shitloads_of_idle_accounts_how_do/[/url]), do you not think the buying power of the refined metal is going down as well?


                                                                                                                              Are there enough new players buying keys in the Mann Co Store to make their accounts premium to keep up with demand? Are backpack expanders being sold for 3 keys like it's nothing, having no effect on store purchases? All these things have an effect, and it's not a fucking price suggestion on a website that a lot of people disregard that's done it.

                                                                                                                                you know, this was happening slower over time anyway because of exactly what xen mentioned which is the increase of metal in the economy on a constant basis. every week thousands of refined worth of metal enter into the economy and it leaves at a much slower rate, only through crafting. this drives the relative price of things compared to metal up (inflation). even without an event, unless good metal sinks are in place to remove metal from the economy the price of keys in metal will continue to rise over time.


                                                                                                                                This is just an unfortunate fact and valve doesn't care. I know idlers that idle literally hundreds of accounts and add tons of metal to the economy and valve has taken no stand against the practice because they're paid for each account. Key prices are going to rise and they're never going to stop just because of the framework of the TF2 economy.

                                                                                                                                  prices are crashing soon. 2 craft hats arent gonna be a key anymore, etc.

                                                                                                                                  Do you know why people are selling for 2.77 Keys back then, when the price was 2.55-2.66? its not because its worth 2.77 ref, but obviously because they wanted more profit. and now its 2.66-2.77, people are gonna sell for even higher prices.


                                                                                                                                  Do you know how they could post those high prices? because they saw on a website, that a key is now worth more than before.

                                                                                                                                  And it was accepted because some people just bought keys on the market for 2.55 and somehow successfully sold them for 2.77. (Either the guy really needed the key, or he was a newbie)

                                                                                                                                  So soon people are gonna buy for 2.66 and sell for 2.88, and so on.

                                                                                                                                  and its gonna get worse, because this price reffering website accepts such price suggestions.


                                                                                                                                  Good Job

                                                                                                                                    Riys


                                                                                                                                    All right. Then how come this site listed keys at 2.55 for months and they stayed at 2.55 for months? if it's as you say, why don't keys go up a scrap every week forever?


                                                                                                                                    Back when keys were 2.55, people did list keys for 2.66 hoping to sell for over the normal price. they sold sometimes, not often, because there were a lot of people also selling at 2.55 all the time.


                                                                                                                                    keys went up to 2.66 because there was more demand. suddenly all the 2.55 sellers were selling their keys quickly and there were none on the market. The new normal price became 2.66 because the amount of people wanting to buy at 2.55 exceeded the number supplying at that price. The same thing happened going from 2.66 to 2.77. it's how economies work.


                                                                                                                                    Prices of keys will rise until the number of people who are willing and able to purchase at that price is less than or equal to the number willing and able to sell. Blame economics, not backpack.tf.

                                                                                                                                      Yep. All the noobs and some pros are uncrating for DAT new unusual and new haunted items. Everyone has them.

                                                                                                                                      Valve has succeeded yet again!

                                                                                                                                      Keys are 2.77 atm

                                                                                                                                        ^ f t t

                                                                                                                                        what are you talking about... == n


                                                                                                                                        i upvoted when i saw this suggestion.

                                                                                                                                        and as i said on my post earlier,

                                                                                                                                        Good Job

                                                                                                                                          Because Gaben

                                                                                                                                            This looks like an easy method of getting positive rep.

                                                                                                                                              wow my comment was terribly worded!

                                                                                                                                              Anyway, Keys should not go to 2.77

                                                                                                                                              Not sure how it rose 2 scrap :/

                                                                                                                                                xen has to be the most vitriolic defender of his thing i've ever seen. But do you know what's funny? i'm gonna quote M_ICKI here.


                                                                                                                                                "Admins, there are more places that keys are traded than outpost"


                                                                                                                                                Guess what.


                                                                                                                                                Immediate response:

                                                                                                                                                "Edit: An Interesting Trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5812777"


                                                                                                                                                Har. Har. Har.

                                                                                                                                                  Spookarma [LYM]: I just care about accurate prices on this price guide, that's all. And I don't see how a suggestion at 2.66 could go through at the moment. Would you really accept this if you were running the show?


                                                                                                                                                  Having said that, this will be the last post I make regarding keys on this website.

                                                                                                                                                    You do realise that nobody will sell keys for anything lower than 2.66 after all of this '2.77' nonsense, and the Halloween update won't mean a thing afterwards. Sick one, Xen. What were keys worth once, anyway?

                                                                                                                                                      you can hardly buy a key for 2.66 in a server,2.55 or 2.44 will be better

                                                                                                                                                        Although it's a ripoff. It's true Keys are going for more than 2.66 each. Hell, you could probably sell them for 3 Ref if you tried hard enough. Downvote.

                                                                                                                                                          The thing is that keys have raised only because of the halloween hype. When halloween ends, they will go back to their "usual" price. Although 2.66 is/was already a ripoff.

                                                                                                                                                            I bought several keys for 2.77 + weapon yesterday as all 2.66 sellers were out of stock.

                                                                                                                                                              Alternatively stop the bickering and just buy them from the Mann Co. store. At least then you're guaranteed a fixed price.

                                                                                                                                                                I had originally upvoted this yesterday because I believed 2.66 was the average price and 2.77 was the highballers gouging. Now that I power traded for the last 24 hours, I'm going to have to downvote this since the highballers have taken over with the current "unboxing mania" and 2.66 is a pain to find. So the spread of 2.66-2.77 is currently accurate. The price will surely drop to 2.66 or maybe even back to 2.5 after the halloween event "unboxing mania" is over . So don't fret people. If 2.66-2.77 is too much for ya, just wait a week to buy Keys. The market will work it out shortly. :)

                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5804083 - sold one key for 3 ref.

                                                                                                                                                                    When the keys first rised i sold bunch for 2.77 so I had this dowvoted but then i tryed to buy keys and is very easy to find them for 2.66.

                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4634688

                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/583845

                                                                                                                                                                    ^just the first page

                                                                                                                                                                      I agree, before the price increase on this site I didn't see anyone selling for 2.77.

                                                                                                                                                                        Let it be 2.66 ;_; Please get it to 2.66

                                                                                                                                                                          I have had to buy at 2.70 due to huge demand for keys because of new unusual effects. At this point the demand for keys is pushing the price up and that is a legitimate reason for a price to change.

                                                                                                                                                                            I can say now that it has become very easy for me to sell at 3 ref ea. Reposted my trade to test out the market's desperation for keys, and within 24 hours unloaded 90% of my keys at 3 ref ea. Hate it all you want, but you should blame those trying to uncrate the new halloween effect.


                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5797777 My trade that has made me money.

                                                                                                                                                                              Downvote. Due to all that Halloween bullshit the current range is indeed realistic although the price is going to drop after the Halloween. But like said, the current price is >2,66ref.


                                                                                                                                                                              Btw, would be funny to know, how many voters can we get, if they keep this open for few days. Never seen 700+ voters before. :p

                                                                                                                                                                                The market doesn't go based on the price, it's the market that drives the price. Times are changing and keys are going up a little.


                                                                                                                                                                                Buying keys for 2.66 was like buying keys for 2.5-2.55 in the last few months. It's not as frequent as it used to be. It's time for the price to reflect the change in the market.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I liked it when 2.33 was a normal price. I find 2.55 perfectly fair. Costs 2.50 to buy a key, so you get the equivalent in metal. I can also argue for people selling at 2.66. The one extra scrap is some sort of service fee for buying the key. But last time I tried buying a key, he asked 3 ref. I closed the trade on him. 2.77 is just too much.

                                                                                                                                                                                    @pinkie, 2.77 is what people are now willing to buy keys at. I sold my last key for 2.77 and had about 2-3 adds for it in less then 5 minutes. Some people are willing to go as far as 3 ref and actually getting buyers.

                                                                                                                                                                                      sure the people are buying/selling for 2.77 ~ 3 refs, they are rly non sense! "OMG the price is rising LET'S BUYING A LOT OF KEYS" (evil voice here). without stop to thinking why the price is rising and if they accept it! the old prices 2,33 ~ 2,66 was rly fair, they are usually sold by 2,5 and thats was fair.

                                                                                                                                                                                      But thats my opinion...

                                                                                                                                                                                        I think that keys are being sold at 2.77 because this site says that's the worth. lol

                                                                                                                                                                                          THE PRICE IS NOT BASED ON WHAT YOU WANT! IT'S BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAY!

                                                                                                                                                                                            This is just stupid, its a vicious cycle. The price is set WELL AND FIRMLY at 2.55. People sell them at 2.66. The price gets raised to 2.66. People sell at 2.77. The price gets raised to 2.77. People sell at 2.88. Price goes down because people think its insane. Starts over again :/

                                                                                                                                                                                              so if people pay just 10 keys for a earbud u will sell yours for that? even if u lose around 20 fucking keys? sure...

                                                                                                                                                                                                As far as I know, the price of keys (in metal) has never gone down in over 3 years.


                                                                                                                                                                                                Personally, I don't think the community can be trusted to vote accurately and honestly on the price of keys.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  the price supposed to be based in math, like statics and the TF2 shop (for UC ones), if u dont like it, dont buy, like modern art (for some people sure), but the price is that. That just dont happens because a lot of people who don't want lose your overpriced items and pay more for what rly worth it

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I was firm that keys are priced at 2.55-2.66.


                                                                                                                                                                                                    But then I tried selling keys @ 2.77 each in trade servers. I got 2 sold. Downvote.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      thinking that way Typhoon, i bought around 4 doublecross for 3 keys, and the price is rising, or the kringles for 5 keys. isn't because the people are "paying" that we have too rising the key price, any item wich worth 2 key (for exemple) will continu worth 2 keys, but the price of refined metal don't change or the tf2 shop prices don't change (in the key case), but a item wich worth 2 keys and was 5 ref now is almost 6 ref because of what? in that way will be profit in craft again, because u will spend around 4 refs to craft a hat and sell him for 1,5 keys, therefore u will fuck up the economy. The key price should be acord the shop, as u cant craft a key. that spreadsheet should give a good direction to people who want made a fair trade, not be manipulated for the untrusted will of the people who want make profit with this. in the most cases that no aply, isnt everone has the same hat/misc, but key is currency like refined or even weps, but thats cant have the worth changed (refined metal).

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I bought my self a bunch of keys for 2.77 each since every thread selling for 2.66 were out of stock. High demand, high price.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why not just make a 2.55 - 2.77 price range? It's not like keys have to be traded at some exact price, plus keys obviously went up in demand because of the holiday effects. Keys should stabilize back to 2.66 average shortly after the event ends.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            "This is just stupid, its a vicious cycle. The price is set WELL AND FIRMLY at 2.55. People sell them at 2.66. The price gets raised to 2.66. People sell at 2.77. The price gets raised to 2.77. People sell at 2.88. Price goes down because people think its insane. Starts over again :/"


                                                                                                                                                                                                            This is exactly the case except the key sellers never let the price drop again. It just keeps raising. Keys were rising slowly, yea, but as soon as this site started upping their price the keys starting following.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Some people sell these for 2.88... it's insane..

                                                                                                                                                                                                              They should be 2.55 firm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                This pricing based in tf outpost only is retarded, those are all key resellers meaning they bought it 1 scrap at least off, so those people that are selling it for 2.77 bought it for 2.66, i never saw a seller selling it for 2.77 in a trade server yet. Just outpost but outpost = key resselers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  They are inflated due to halloween unboxing, but the price here should stay firm and the seasonal influence be handled individually by the buyers and the sellers

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I bought around 10 keys yesterday (from TF2OP and trade servers) for 2.66 pretty easily.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Usually I sell for 2.66, but i try the new price:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5852968


                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've sold 8 in less than 5 minutes. I really should have asked for more...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Soon we will see people buying keys from the Mann Co. store more often. I'm pretty sick of the re-pricing and profit whores on trading sites.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This is silly

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You can not argue a key is currently worth 2.66, when there are 100s of people quickBUYING them at that price to make a profit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              why the price of the keys are rising for the halloween event if u need th eerie key to open the crate? thats don't make any sense, if the price of teh eerie key were high its ok, but the keys don't make anything new. so its pointless that price! people are selling this at 3 REF! its insane! the price was 2,33-2,55, and then 2,44-2,66, but now is 2,77 - 3!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                another thing to note is, items that worthed almost 1 key kept the price, but items that worthed for exemple 2 keys (5~5,22 refs) now worth around 6 ref! if u change the price of keys u mess up with all economy and takes the value of the metal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Valve should add a crafting scheme for keys, 2.55 ref = 1 key. As part of price regulation to protect us consumers against these profit whores. But never gonna happen.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @F3rN4nD00


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    People trading normal keys for earie keys, and the new unusuals can be found in both crates.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Vercetti


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I see what you did there...and agree :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I couldnt agree with you more

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Current spread is still correct. DOWNVOTED