Team Fortress 2
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Buyers @ 25.88:
Buyers @ 25.77 that support:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26910525 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26843369 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835037 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832283 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834751 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834623 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28827562 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834799 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27623733 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831130 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28828013 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28826222 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28831867 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28832748 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28834924 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259 - 25.77
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1319717 - 26
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1530048 - 26
http://bazaar.tf/trade/995444 - 25.88
http://bazaar.tf/trade/1124443 - 25.88
http://bazaar.tf/trade/603579 - 25.77
There are no valid sellers below 26 refined, and plenty of buyers @ 25.88. The other suggestion is basing their 26 refined end off of 4 buyers, all of which are already gone, meaning there is no valid proof on that suggestion for 26 refined. Bottom line, there are plenty of buyers at 25.88 that show a common point, whilst there are plenty of sellers @ 26 that counter his suggestion that has very little proof to begin with.
If you have any other proof/sales that support, comment them below as they do help. Thanks.
there's a lot of sellers for 26 though.
Because every single bot is buying at 25.88. They have no choise to sell at anything else than 26.00.The most common trading point for selling your keys to someone with a buy order is 25,88. This text is also in the price suggestion guide, but I dont know if it applies here: ~~Buyout prices are set by the seller and therefore do not reflect the actual price of the item.~~ Does this count? I dunno... In my opinion 25.88 ain't half bad, but 25.88-26.00 as a range isn't bad aswell.
You can't raise the price of an item based off of sellers.
it's full of buyers too, what are you saying?
Still a solid suggestion. Buyers are consistent even after 2 days. Upvote.
1 scrap up?.....i feel that its low to bring it up...
Yeah at the time this looked good. Now there are a few more buyers that have shifted up to 26, not enough for 26 itself however. (at least not for right now). Just depends on what wave the market takes. Till then i'll leave this open.
I would be glad to see your opinion I in your own price suggestion. Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel that that is a better way to express your thoughts. Maybe something with a range of prices might fit the current economy better? I dunno. A few lines of text are not always enough to persuade people into believing what you are saying. Evidence most likely will. (Deleted things were the same message. It looked like I was responding to the wrong person. Sorry I didn't get the follow the line up to the original post clue.
yes i agree but i cant do currency suggestions yet.im not too experienced.its just that most of the key price suggestions are like 1 rec more or so
I came around to post a screenshot of the classies in my first response (PC > Android). Now some buyers at 26 are gone and even more sellers at 26. https://gyazo.com/fe9ecb0c8a50dcb2b352fffa75f9a940 I want to ask a question: If a person is buying for 26.00 and a bot is buying for 25.88. I usually gravitate towards trading with the bot. (Don't get me wrong here. I am indeed a bit biased cause I work at STN, but I feel like many people share this feeling so it needs to be said.) Does the person at 26 then really count as proof? The bot will be moving a lot more keys a lot quicker. I feel like that is a more common trading point. ~Edited the gyazo link. I put a period at the end of the sentence that broke the link.
At 8:00 German time I see three offline classies at 26 and the rest is lower. I also see three always online bot selling for 26. Can someone respond to this message with a screenshot of the classies page? I am on mobile sorry.
I know listings aren't the most common trading point perse, but it gives me an indication that 25,88 ain't half so bad.
Only 3 buyers at 26, one of which is not buying and has been there all day, not to mention he can only buy one key so it doesn't even matter. Another is offline, and the bot is young. 25.88 is fine here. :P
Edit: the bot was gone before posting this comment. So only 2 invalid buyers at 26 now.
This still looks good.
Every now and then a few buyers pop up at a number above your suggested price but almost instantly go out of metal or just don't buy keys.
Also.. why do people make buy orders at 26 Refined when there's literally hundreds for sale at 26 Refined...
Anyways, the last 2 days have supported a bump to 25.88 Refined and still does.
And jesus Relic, good work on the amount of proof.
Setting the standard for proof required for currency suggestions.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - b/s 26?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28805089 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28835744 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25788259 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28837263 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28836672 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27212475 - 25.77
Edit: Interesting. A handful of my buyers have dropped back down to 25.77. Still no sellers below 26 refined however. Guess we might have to wait a little longer to see if sellers or buyers drop.
Raising prices?? No way !
Pfft, you really think that this is going to change it? Everyone is just gonna vote down for that free rep amirite? Oh and moderators get triggered and delete this if you want, I don't give a flying F lol.
1 scrap more, lol.
yeah i agree there's Alot of buyers buying at 25.88. Upvote.
There isn't as many buyers @ 25.88 at the moment and not a lot of sellers @ 25.88 either. More sellers @ 26 and more buyers at 25.77.
However 25.88 still does seem like a decent mid point due to both sellers and the buyers. Upvote.
Only 4 buyers at 25.88 and 2 are invalid, handful of sellers starting to pop up at 25.88 like you said. Raising with buyers wouldn't be good enough atm. This might fall short depending on if more sellers drop.
Screenshot(s) of Classifieds:
25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4102213550 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310752705 | Listed 31 minutes ago
25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/2615943789 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561197995059584 | Listed about 12 hours ago [Bumped]
25.88 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/5451574772 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198345993088 | Listed 5 days ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4915230112 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198358090160 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/2757671145 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198310144372 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/3218994562 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198342136112 | Listed about 9 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4300477226 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198341449455 | Listed about 5 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/4955855218 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198355796365 | Listed about 2 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/3202545095 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198340634356 | Listed about 2 hours ago [Bumped]
26 ref | http://backpack.tf/item/5600456731 | http://backpack.tf/u/76561198356095959 | Listed 45 minutes ago [Bumped]
The first bot has roughly 30 keys and the second bot has 299 keys. Probably an up vote since they have a pretty big stock between the two.
Only 4 buyers @ 25.88:
Stn bots only counts as one buyer, not two. As of now there are only 4 buyers at 25.88, and one of them is stn, dont count on them staying there for long as they change their prices about 30 times throughout the day. Sellers are staying at 26, earlier there was a handful of bot sellers at 25.88 tho. This is gonna stay up for a while.
Edit: just realized you linked sellers ._.
Sellers dont help here, as you cant raise the price of an item with sellers. buyers or sales is what you need to raise the price of an item.
There are now several buyers at 25.88 again. I think it would be safe to assume that most sales that have happened over the past 3 days have been from the buy orders of 25.88 and sellers at 25.88.
The cheapest sellers are now at 26 flat.
Yea I was gonna make a last update but busy rn I will later tonight if this is still up. 2 pages of buyers at 25.8u all day long. Should be good now.
Higher and higher until they inevitably crash...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28660704 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28837561 - 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26910525 - 26/.88?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802959 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28816276 - 25.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28812531 - 25.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28839525 - 25.77
Over the time span of the past few days, I think it's pretty evident that 25.88 has been the most common point, and the sellers have been frozen at 26 refined the whole time showing anything higher would be too high/inaccurate.
*cough* my 5 day old bot is popular now . I've not bought many keys for 25.88 today, but the 27 or so I put in from this account sold almost instantly at 26. Either way, the price raise won't affect our bots, so carry on
For people who want keys fall I recommend to sell ref currency money about 0.08-0.10$ so bots will drop sell & buy order on keys
Yeah, good luck getting any buyers.
There's supply and no demand, a single person cannot make an impact on the economy.
In key suggestions, do you have to use outpost or is bazaar.tf, scrap.tf, stn, etc. acceptable?
In my opinion scrap.tf is no valid source. They don't change their prices often enough for that. They have 2555-2566 at the moment. I don't think that is the market value, but I might be wrong
Now some buyers at 26 ref.
I know they've been slowly listing all day. No idea why they left this up for so long.
There have been way more sales at 25.88 though. 25.88 looks like the most common trading point, which is what we are after. I think this suggestion should be alright.
Yeah, that's honestly a bad move on the mods' part, if I'm not missing anything. The buyers at 25.88 were up for a good three days before ones at 26 started to appear. I can understand if the prices were rising really fast, and the suggestion couldn't keep up with the buyers, but this isn't the case here.
If you wait long enough all price suggestions will eventually become incorrect. Relic might be a legend at this stuff, but he doesn't have crystal balls*. The suggestion was and in my opinion is still spot on. I hope we can all agree on that. Edit: +10% more grammar.
Keys need to be lower not higher. It is basic economics, keep keys lower and we will all get richer
Let's discuss this reasonably, most economists agree that inflation encourages growth, which is good, metals have quite obviously been inflating in value but they have been inflating so rapidly that it is unsustainable. We must slow the growth of the price of keys now or they will crash in value in the future. Please head my warning and don't make the same mistakes countries like Zimbabwe made.
this should help you understand why keys are rising in price and metal is lowering
It's 1 f*cking scrap, that makes no difference in anything, just wait till they go up atleast a rec...
why should he? this site was made to keep track of the CURRENT price, if the price went up of a scrap then it's a good moment to update the price.
Yes but I doubt that changes anything in sellers/buyers.
people who's been in the market for years won't even look at bp price and they'll do their own researches, but newbies (people who's new to tradine) will be really useful to have an updated price.
Scrap.tf is always just weird. I know I am pointing a finger at everyones favorite seller, but it is true.