Price Suggestion
~27.33 ref
Unique Mann Co. Supply Crate Key
3852 votes up
2285 votes down
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RESUGGESTING because I got lot of comments on my previous keys range (16.11-16.22) that 16-16.11 would be better


http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55df3b11ba8d88fe078b457c


(links from previous Orginsal post )______________________________________________________________________________


Im setting low for 16.11 - because most of 16ref solds I've found were qucksolds, but ...


POLL http://strawpoll.me/5330200

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*number - are tags for links where seller sold few keys but still have few in stock/offer


SHORTCUT STATS (of all beside classified in end )

buyers (keys in total - wanted)

16ref - 29 buyers (they want 60->60keys)

16.11 - 1 buyer (they want1 key)


solds (keys in total - sold)

16ref - 22 sellers (27 keys sold)

16.11 - 14 sellers (32 keys sold)

16.22 - 25 sellers ( 25 keys sold)

16.33 - 6 sellers ( 15 keys sold )

16.66 - 3 sellers ( 9 keys sold )

Δ Δ Δ

QUICKsolds (keys in total - quicksold)

16ref - 11quicksellers (13 keys quicksold)

16.11 - 3 quicksellers ( 5 keys quicksold )

16.66 - 1 quicksellers (7 keys qucksold)


sellers (keys in total - in stock left)

16ref - 19 sellers (19 keys in stock)

16.11 - 23 sellers ( 55 keys in stock)

16.22 - 9 sellers ( 42 keys in stock)

16.33 - 11 sellers ( 35 keys in stock)

16.44 - 1 sellers ( 1 keys in stock)

16.66 - 5 sellers ( 6 keys in stock )


BUYERS:

SOLDS (before You ask about link - check current key owner) [/li]

SELLERS:

CLASSIFIED:

Outstanding work, upvote.

    I'm having a bit of trouble selling mine for 16 ref. Every bot I've tried that buys for 16 and sells for 16.11 is out of ref. It's been progressively harder to sell keys within the past few days, too. I tried setting up my own trade and, as of the time of this posting, have had no luck:


    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26902745


    I've honestly never had to wait more than a single bump to sell keys. It seems to me that keys are going down, not up.


    Edit: Also, a number of your buyers seem to be out of ref.

        only 1 / 4 keys got sold ( the 3rd from left)


        now sellers offers his keys for some items - on his outpost profile currently

          Eventually, yes. But it took a lot longer than it usually does. I'm not debating that you can sell for 16 ref, just that it takes a lot longer than I'm used to and it doesn't seem like 16.11 is viable, especially since all the bots selling for that price are out of ref and full of keys.

        Honestly I thought the keys would drop :/. Every bot who is buying for 16 is out of stock with too many keys and they seem not to be able to sell them.

            Im not including bot as proof only because I can't determine how many keys was sold/ unsold/ left bot inventory etc.


            Beside bot cant be treated as valid key proof. Normal offer/ trade can.


            Classified are normal "support" proof

                16 ref seems stable, plus, does 1 scrap really make much of a difference? It's kinda pointless to just raise it by 0.11 ref.

                    You don't actually get it do you. Keys for 16 ref is not actually hard to get at all. 16.11 is just a quick buy. So why add the .11 range when keys easily sell for 16 ref.

                    I see where you're going, but currency prices normally creep up and down slowly, not skyrocketing

                      agreed, people will just sell for 16

                          doesn't help at all, sadly

                            why are like all these comments downvoted to oblivion?

                            Here's some counter proof: http://i.imgur.com/Jwr0LaZ.png

                            Had no problem buying 16 keys @ 16 ref.

                                I've bought ALOT of keys at 16 ref in classified over the past few weeks, the amount of sales at 16 still dwarfs the 16.11 by orders of magnitude and thus shouldn't be considered in the range. Also many of your buyers above 16 ref are sellers/poorly bumped/ out of ref etc. it seems that 16.11 ref is a quick-buy price and 16 not a quicksell (thanks to the arbitrage bots mainly).

                                            Your last range was kinda edgy, but this was outstanding, Good proof, Upvote.

                                                        Actually, i don't like suggestions at all, and i have nothing against you, im just making my option out, may i?

                                                        My option is: Trading in Tf2 at all, would be better without bp.tf\scrap.tf\dispenser.tf etc, becouse trading slowly going to shop market, with fixed prices.

                                                        So, i'll back to my first comment - keys should no change for scrap or two, becouse thats normal, if someone selling for 15,88, when it cost 16 refs, just to get metall, and if someone selling at 16.11, just becouse he got alot of keys and he can. Not becouse then want change price. Even if your suggestion is going to be accepted, nothing changes at all. Price would be 16.11, and still someone going to sell keys at 16 refs, and someone else at 16.22. So thats why i told keys range should change at least for 0,33, and better if 0.66. Thanks for reading my option.

                                                      *trow box of Rad-Aways*

                                                        Oh sorry for this double link - with so many tabs opened at once i accidently use the same link

                                                        but i cant edit Orginal post anymore


                                                        Thanks for info

                                                        All aboard the train where mods have warned our comments and people have downvoted them


                                                          sorry that im asking but when will this end

                                                              We dont set keys prices according what we want

                                                              Keys prices are set according to whats happening on market currently


                                                              "I want lower prices becase" are not proof

                                                                I don't think you understand how this works

                                                                          I know currencies must be treated carefully, but this suggestion is now 9 days long and has more than 4000 votes, what're we waiting for?

                                                                                idk, I got downvoted for asking a legit question. Alternates these days.

                                                                                    I didnt made flat 16.11 - because there are some 16ref seller and buyers (mostly quicksold but well ...)

                                                                                          backpack.tf doesn't just pull out a price out of thin air and makes everyone follow off of it


                                                                                          backpack tf prices follow how regular economy works. prices are based off of what people are selling and sold for

                                                                                            I don't think you read it, but, as said by [DJK]:

                                                                                            "if the price range on backpack.tf goes up then everyone starts buying at the price and sells higher"


                                                                                            If people sell higher, bp.tf is going to set the price range higher. This is why keys went from 7 ref to 16 ref. Too many people are reliant on the price, so its best not to say a price for it (although classified listings do show what people want to buy/sell (usually quickbuy/sell at the front, and normal prices after 2-3 pages)).

                                                                                                that's why im buying keys with money not refs anymore becuase to be honest the prices are extremely high & ....

                                                                                                & kovalsky ppls are greedy & they wont protest nor stop buying keys so let go buy keys with money let go with metal :)

                                                                                                  there was period - i think even in thisd year- than keys suddently droped from almost 20 to 15.77ref


                                                                                                  so its' possible


                                                                                                  but yeah must admit many people are greedy

                                                                                                you clearly have never done a proper suggestion before

                                                                                                  I can say I want to sell my ordinary chocolate bar for $4000. doesn't mean the value should be raised to that

                                                                                                That it literally what Backpack.tf does already. They give people the overall market's price.

                                                                                                This is a price suggestion - not the place for buying/selling. Go check the classifieds and Outpost

                                                                                                Too much proof.

                                                                                                  Well. There seems to be loads of proof. Take my upvote son

                                                                                                      why? what the reason ?

                                                                                                        Ummmm name is Based around trading. Lower key prices would make that easier. So I suspect that it's some kid that thinks the eco is 'failing' and keys should go down. To 'fix' the eco

                                                                                                      There always seem to be at least 10 sellers at 16 ref on classifieds...

                                                                                                      Just sayin'

                                                                                                        look up my classified screenshot


                                                                                                        there are like twice or 3timed mor 16.11 sellers


                                                                                                        i dont post those link for ****s and giggles

                                                                                                            After two weeks, I think it may be time to close this suggestion.

                                                                                                              Satisfactory proof, #Upvote

                                                                                                                15 days. For the love of god do something.

                                                                                                                  this suggestion has been the cause for me to lose so much rep, i was 'good voter' now im back where i started. for the love of god, can a mod do something. close it, hopefully accept it. but just make it go away its comment section is a mole on the face of backpack.tf. i feel soo bad for Kovalsky

                                                                                                                    How is this even democratic price voting, when in the end, the mods decide whether this gets accepted or not?

                                                                                                                    Just set a vote minimum of, lets say 5000 for currencies and if this is reached it gets either declined or accepted, depending on how many voted yes or no.

                                                                                                                      It's so the rules are followed. Seen many positive votes knocked back due to one rule not being followed

                                                                                                                        sure someone should watch, that the rules are being followed, but the final decision should be at the community

                                                                                                                        With this time the mods don't just sit on their hands they actually check market trends and current price points to see if the price change is valid since so many keys are sold on a daily basis it's no easy task. If was a straight up voting choice prices that don't refectory the market would be accepted

                                                                                                                        Thanks Man :c

                                                                                                                          It seems you have a following of dislikers I've made b8 that has been much less cancerous than this. Like do people that think rising key price = end of tf2. Just ruin keys suggestions with their stupidity

                                                                                                                          i want keys to drop =/= valid proof


                                                                                                                          economy dont work like it

                                                                                                                            By the looks of that name you have no idea how this works

                                                                                                                              no proof for such a drop, so no

                                                                                                                              sold mine for 16.33 boys, but still think it should stay at 16

                                                                                                                                range is 16 - 16.11 so ....... ?


                                                                                                                                what your problem Sir ?

                                                                                                                                  who said i have a problem, just supplied info

                                                                                                                                I love how I key suggestion with this much evidence is hated upon. It's a scrap change, but if 2 cents really matters to you thats your lookout. Tf2 has a lot of great people like you putting this much work in and then it's got the cancerous Lenny face is my only comment losers. Up vote.

                                                                                                                                  That's because people that have no idea how economy works comment about how a economy is failing. With their vast knowledge on the issue. That is higher key price = bad for me. Mods should be able to delete comments not just hide them. The place just a yellow mess now.

                                                                                                                                    "thats because i higher price is bad for me". What would you rather, fairness or people like you hoarding all the virtual items.

                                                                                                                                      welcome to a economy like in real life billionaires hoard their money and rich people in tf2 hoard their favorite items rather give them away

                                                                                                                                        and you say im hoarding your backpack is more than 4 times the worth of mine

                                                                                                                                          while this is true it proves 2 things:

                                                                                                                                          A) You are either depressed about the state of the world or:

                                                                                                                                          B) You really couldnt care less about how screwed up the world is and (deep thoughts here) arent commited to making it a better place.

                                                                                                                                          As for why my backpack is worth more than yours: I have something i like to call a "job" its part time, but every month or two i buy myself a fancy sparkly hat to prove exactly why i am good at tf2, it also acts on an effect i like to call "medic money magnet" or mmm, where a medic is attracted to sparkly hats.

                                                                                                                                            i also have a part time job, i only spend money when there are new crates :( also option b

                                                                                                                                              Can't really argue much more against that.

                                                                                                                                  16 days just for it to move up a scrap?