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HOUWAR needs to be updated. More recent sales have been found. Before you downvote me without thinking, all my sales are below.


NOTE: These are clean, non duped sales only! Duped houwars are still selling from 9-10 buds. They are also all sales in pure because they are considered currency. So please make sure that you provide PURE sales (no unusual sales) and to check if the hat is non duped before going to help give proof, or use counterproof.


Very recent sales:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23272120[/url]

-Sold my HOUWAR for 11 earbuds pure (9 buds 32 keys)


[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21891037[/url]

-Sold for 10 buds, 14 keys pure (very close to middle value)


[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21948062[/url]

-Sold for 10 buds and 8 keys pure (closer middle/low value range)


[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23378027[/url]

-Sold for 10 buds pure (to me) (low value)


High offers:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21412399[/url]

-was offered 11 pure twice


Most recent sales:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23384271[/url]

12 buds (using 12 for high range)


[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23958643[/url]

Sold for 2 clean max heads with super short histories + 2 pure buds + a sunbeams respectless rubber glove (proof that the glove is worth at minimum 3.3buds pure below)

-11.9 buds pure (very close to high value)


Proof that rubber glove is worth at least 3.3 buds pure:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23351539[/url]

EDIT: -Offered a max headpure for the glove, using for range

(Offerer is lunaticpuff)


Proof/Counter proof always accepted (just as long as it's a pure sale, and non duped)

    I sold one for 11, upvote

      I've actually rejected 10 buds pure for mine three times, upvote.

        my biggest concern is about the range,

        never been this wide before and it shouldnt be

          I disagree, there has been sales all over... And I talked to the mod puddington to ask if 10-12 is too big, and he said if there is sales there at each range, it is still acceptable.

            Oh and check the history of houwars pricing, back then it was at 10-12... Same range as I'm suggesting. It has been this wide before

          u got no proof for 12 buds, your "12 bud" sale, was a sale for 12 buds 9 keys apparently.

            So... wouldn't that just prove even more that 12 buds is possible?

            Only one sale at 12?

            Neutral.

              '-11.6 buds pure (very close to high value)' is also present...

                There is another sale at 11.9 which is close to the 12, and the 3 buds for the glove was just an offer. The owner of another version of the hat said he could convert it to a max head, making it 11.9

                There isn't much supporting your high value.

                10 - 11 Buds still seems correct.

                  Changed it, turns out there was an offer for a max head for the glove... Putting that in for now

                  Had a hard time selling a clean one for 11 buds, didn't sell it.

                  Bought two for 10 buds.

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23565772


                  I think I'll downvote, as 12 is really impossible unless the houwar has a really really short history.


                  Edit.

                  Puddington was selling one for 11, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23802456 , but then he downed the price to 10 buds. As it took a week for him to sell it.

                    I think the first guy was looking to quicksell the houwars for pure, and the one that puddington was selling is duped. I'll talk to the owner but I sold the same HOUWAR as puddington for 11 buds in less than a week.

                      Confirmed that the one puddington was selling is duped. Also how did you have a hard time selling your HOUWAR if you sold it for something in less than 2 hours?

                        I tried selling it off-site for two weeks now, I put a trade on TF2OP only for the unusuals of my choice, and Indeed I got what I exactly wanted :)

                        You'll still need more sales at 12, without it you won't pass, because the current range is very possible :)

                          I need more sales at 12?? It's very hard to find pure sales for anything, my suggestion before had sales at different ranges, I had 2 sales at the high value, and that got accepted. There could always be more pure sales coming, but it's very hard to find any mid range sales, like 11-11.5 because everybody with a HOUWAR that has clean and has a good history is asking for 12+

                      That hype tho.

                        It's impossible to get one for 10 anymore, but you do still have a sale at 10. I might be a little biased because I own one, either way upvote.

                          Sold a clean HOUWAR for 11 buds pure + 14 keys + a clean Scorching Coupe D'isaster.

                          http://imgur.com/jQJsUxa&Kb3y71c

                            Posting in outpost link:


                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23971352

                              Also bought this other clean HOUWAR for 11 non-gifted buds:


                              http://imgur.com/KBm4evm


                              History of the HOUWAR: http://backpack.tf/item/220731989

                                I was looking at that trade too, the range is MUCH closer to 11-12 but I can't use that because I have a sale at 10. I'll make a new suggestion in the future though.

                                  That sale at 10 can pretty much be counted as invalid now, it's over a month old and given the situation with how buds have dropped greatly since then it's reasonable for the suggestion to be 11-12 buds.

                                    disagree, a month old is still valid, like i said before, you'd have to wait a bit before the sale is invalid, once the sale is over 2 months old, I probably can bump it again

                                      That sale at 10 can pretty much be counted as invalid now, it's over a month old and given the situation with how buds have dropped greatly since then, it's reasonable for the suggestion to be 11-12 buds.

                                        I think it needs to be re-suggested to 11-12.

                                          I'm starting to think so too, there are a couple houwars on the market with offers of above 10 pure.

                                            Even duped ones are getting offers about 11 and more.

                                              I don't know about that but, yeah 10 is too low to be included into the range.

                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24146125 has an offer of 11

                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23965995 has an offer of 55 keys and 200 USD not sure if scam or not, but I assume not because the guy has some nice stuff.

                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23681577 same guy who offered 11 on the first link offered here too.


                            Didn't include unusual offers, just pure offers, just some supporting proof.

                              11 really seems to be the most common trade point here in pure. Seems to be relatively hard to buy at 10 but hard to sell at 12. I'm not opposed to making this a wide range since the mean I think is still spot on.


                              Duped houwars should be taken as 10 pure. We have Michael's sale to validate that here.