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Alright so, gave riruka an hour to re-suggest, seems like he/she won't do it
Counter
Insta solds 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23367246
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23366517
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23340491
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743162
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23379174
Solds 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23377450
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23070908
Selling 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23236408
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23283819
Selling at 1 key
none on outpost or classifieds.
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I buy 1 for 1 key in outpost :v
Link http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23379174
You mean you BOUGHT it, and yeah in 1 hour after that trade was created
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
If he successfully bought one for 1 key after posting trade for only an hour, doesn't that undermine the 2 key flat suggestion?
Also, the only two currently listed in classifieds are asking 1.4 keys. (I own a Kiev and would love to see the price rise, but I don't think the evidence favors 2 flat rather than range of 1.x - 2)
http://imgur.com/vfhfFlL
' If he successfully bought one for 1 key after posting trade for only an hour, doesn't that undermine the 2 key flat suggestion? '
sold in an hour, it's called a quicksell, making it invalid, plus classifieds work only as supportive proof, has nothing to do with the suggestion.
● Sold at 1 key 4 ref (2 days):
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23333652
That's consistent with the two classifieds posted yesterday at 1 key 4 ref. One of those is now gone, and current classifieds are:
1.2
1.4
1.5 (has spell)
http://imgur.com/qk1bAEn
(Please check the backpack.tf Guide to making suggestions. It says "classifieds are valid proof, but can be unreliable." It does not say classifieds "work only as supportive proof" to bolster a suggestion. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version/ )
● "sold in an hour, it's called a quicksell, making it invalid"
Are you saying if it took a day or week to buy at 1 key, then it would count as evidence, but if it's so easy to buy at 1 key that he can do it in an hour, that it doesn't count?
● Your fourth "Insta sold at 1 key" is a 2 month old bot trade at "about 10% below bp.tf prices" according to current notes:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743162
● Out of the entire market, you have *2 total* completed sales at 2 keys, 1 seller trying unsuccessfully for 5 days to sell at 2 keys, and another trying unsuccessfully for 1 week to sell at 2 keys. Then we have a bunch of recent/current sellers/buyers in range from 1 key to 1.4 keys. The evidence isn't consistent with a price of 2 keys with no range.
k professor thanks for the info, nothing new tho
First I can't make a range with a seller in the classifieds, that's only SUPPORTIVE proof
' Sold at 1 key 4 ref (2 days):
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23333652 '
didn't take little time to sell it, but still 2 days is not a LOT of time, you can't counter with a single piece of proof.
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' Please check the backpack.tf Guide to making suggestions. It says "classifieds are valid proof, but can be unreliable." It does not say classifieds "work only as supportive proof" to bolster a suggestion. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/792-how-to-make-a-good-suggestion-bullet-points-version '
no you don't come here and try to teach me how to suggest, as simple as that
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"sold in an hour, it's called a quicksell, making it invalid"
Are you saying if it took a day or week to buy at 1 key, then it would count as evidence, but if it's so easy to buy at 1 key that he can do it in an hour, that it doesn't count?
if it sold at 1 key IN 1 HOUR, it's invalid, called a QUICKSELL, so can't be used to counter this suggestion.
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' Your fourth "Insta sold at 1 key" is a 2 month old bot trade at "about 10% below bp.tf prices" according to current notes:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743162 '
does nothing but proving that anything below 2 keys sells fast
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' Out of the entire market, you have *2 total* completed sales at 2 keys, 1 seller trying unsuccessfully for 5 days to sell at 2 keys, and another trying unsuccessfully for 1 week to sell at 2 keys. Then we have a bunch of recent/current sellers/buyers in range from 1 key to 1.4 keys. The evidence isn't consistent with a price of 2 keys with no range. '
so if you say I need a range, what should I put as the low end? sherlock?
This is what the market looks like:
Selling - 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23403791 (< 1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23403267 (< 1 day)
2 in classifieds http://imgur.com/UMYhIXC
Selling - 1.2 keys
1 in classifieds http://imgur.com/UMYhIXC
Selling - 1.4 keys
1 in classifieds http://imgur.com/UMYhIXC
Selling - 1.5-2 keys (1:1 for Sir Shootsalot)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23398329 (< 1 day)
Selling - 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23236408 (1 week, bumped)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23283819 (6 days old, bumped 2 days ago)
Sold - "about 10% below bp.tf prices" 0.9 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743162 (< 1 day, but 2 months old)
Sold - 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23367246 (< 1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23366517 (< 1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23379174 (< 1 day)
Sold - 1.1 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23340491 (< 1 day)
Sold - 1.4 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23333652 (2 days)
Sold - 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23377450
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23070908
Your argument is that every trade should be ignored except the last two, and those two should exclusively determine the price. That's unpersuasive. If it's easy to find sellers under 2 keys, the price should include a range below 2.
● "so if you say I need a range, what should I put as the low end?"
Based on current open trades and past sales, somewhere between 1 and 1.4.
man your 1 key sellers are young and your 1 key solds sold in a day, please srsly stop shitposting, seems like you don't understand what a quicksell mean
Ignore all the young sellers, ignore all the one-day sold, and that leaves you with:
2 sold @ 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23377450
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23070908
1 sold @ 1.4 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23333652
Why would 2.0 be more accurate than a range of 1.4-2.0?
"nothing new"
The 1.4 sale must be new to you, since you left it off your list.
Looks a lot better than the other one, upvote
okay so if anybody already see this i posted it on collectors yer suggsetion hope i will get ban and this site will get rekt cuz it suck!!!!!!!!!!
wtf u kidding me didn't u know that tf2outpost is full of lowballers u should look at those trades wihich sell the yer not the one's who buy the yer ... sorry admins ban me i don't give a fuck and this site ruins whole tf2 traiding peaple can't make good prices theirselfs :/ without this site key would still be like 3 ref or something not fucking 9 oh wait it's no even 9 anymore it's almost 10 oh god the price flies i still remember when key was 6 ref i cried about it, but now ... and wtf who made this proof thingy i am dead serious that it sux so hard, u can't find a good trade in tf2outpost only those one's who rly want to buy something to play tf2 and they quicksell their shit for cheap prices and buy other stuff for high prices like i do cuz i am not usual visitor of this site. and dude it's not my problem if u want to buy yer for cheaper price than it is cuz if u wouldn't want to buy it u wouldn't even posted this suggestion! and thx for reading i will enjoy my ban :D I just had to say it before it goes too far ofc ppl won't listen to me but u will understand 1 day what i really ment by saying this shit. and not my problem if u don't want to kill the page cuz of money :o and yeah i also know that i am not the only one who is trying to say this to traders... and btw hats don't give skill.
k
I think my IQ dropped quite a bit after looking at this.
lmfao shout out to my nigga galaxy lime
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457060
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23456999
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/23457671
This isn't 2 keys flat