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This thing needs a drop
Note: There are only 8 pages on outpost for this thing
Sellers for 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21477169
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21475069
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21250505 (low end bp price)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21536350
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21483941
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21495663
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21470943
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21526989 (Self-Aware Beauty Mark is worth 1 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21480824
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21381617
Unsold at 1.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21493836 (1 day) "high end bp"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21516449 (1 day) "high end bp"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21473170 (2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21483094 (2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21463288 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21461996 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21448006 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21448544 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21453650 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21458257 (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21437058 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21434120 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21439652 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21439565 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21428582 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21432743 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21391434 (5 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21393983 (5 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21410722 (5 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21389316 (6 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21387305 (6 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21352311 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21306026 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21340801 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21218797 (1 week) "high end bp"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21331124 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21240928 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21316361 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21166493 (2 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21103110 (2 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21003828 (2 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21021021 (2 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21107702 (2 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20904176 (3 weeks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20504187 (1 month)
Classified unsolds at 1.33 during this post (x8)
http://imgur.com/d1j7RBL
http://imgur.com/4NF95VI
If I made any mistake such as duplicating a link, or if something got sold, leave a comment and I will edit it as soon as possible.
first link click,
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21240928 poorly bumped
It sold too, actually (if you look in his bp, he no longer has it)
More proof to show that there are unsolds at 1.11 and 1.22
Unsold at 1.11 and above
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21430499 (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21529293 (Young) "1.16"
Unsold at 1.22 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21526447 (Young)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21500547 (1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21496041 (1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21377429 (6 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21328605 (1 week)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21260769 1 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21053278 2 weeks
NOTE: There aren't as many sellers for 1.11-1.22. Most of the bread bite sellers sell them for either 1 refined or 1.33 refined.
I sold 2 for 1.11 in less than 2 hours each in the classifieds today, plenty above 1 ref in the classifieds also (none are 1 ref or below at the time of me posting this). Removing the range is not necessary. You could try changing the range to 1-1.22, since 1.11 and 1.22 are still very possible for a fact.
Ah, I made a slight mistake, forgot to include the unsolds between 1.11-1.33 ref. Going to do that now. There ARE quite a few.
By the way, if you could include the proof for your sale, that would be great. Otherwise, I cannot believe you without proof.
There might be a lot of unsolds at that range, but there are none for 1 ref in the classifieds, indicating it's possibly a quicksell.
There are quite a few links for 1 ref in my proof.
And for your proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21477169 never bumped, sold (2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21475069 never bumped (2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21536350 very young (2 hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21483941 sold (had an add the day it was posted)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21495663 young (1 day)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21470943 never bumped (2 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21526989 young (10 hours), has a self-aware in his bp now (will most likely close)
Not gonna look through your unsolds (I don't have a lot of time right now). Downvote, sorry.
Of the seven links you chose to "nitpick" (and I mean this not in an attempt to cause an argument), 2 of them were sold, and 3 of them are "young" as you state. By proving that 1 ref sells, you strengthen my argument. The others are too young to account for.
The other two "never bumped" are only two days old. Therefore, 1 ref for this item can't possibly be a quicksell price as you stated above.
Keep in mind that there are a great deal of unsolds at 1.11 and up. I ask that you keep these into consideration before you cast a downvote.
7 links out of your 10 links, mind you.
Since you wish to take this further (from your extra proof):
1.11- You forgot to mention this:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21430499 never bumped (4 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21529293 indeed young, 8 hours, never bumped
1.22- Mostly poorly bumped
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21526447 young, 8 hours, bumped at least once, but not in the last 4 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21500547 1 day, bumped up to 4 times (but not in the last 22 hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21496041 1 day, hasn't been bumped in the last 5 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21377429 hasn't been bumped today
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21328605 hasn't been bumped today
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21260769 hasn't been bumped in the last 21 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21053278 sold (check bp)
The point I'm making is that 1.11 and 1.22 do still belong in the range. 1.33 should probably disappear. Maybe you should resuggest.
And yet again you solidify my point! With the exception of the last 1.22 link, you help prove that 1.11 and 1.22 don't sell. While some of the trades aren't bumped very often, the ones that ARE don't sell.
"But Felix, there isn't that much proof for 1.11 - 1.22! DOWNBOAT"
As stated above, most Bread Bite sellers choose to sell for either 1 ref or 1.33 ref. The latter doesn't sell very easily, whereas the former does, and has been proven in this thread.
Again, you only seem to care about 1.33 unsolds. Your proof for 1 ref has been less than ideal, 1.11 very lacking and inaccurate, 1.22 poorly. 1.11/1.22 are still VERY possible.
To back up my original claim (trading history):
Bought bite #1 http://i.imgur.com/jItuG6U.png
Bite #1 sold in an hour http://i.imgur.com/2ptd7Rs.png
Bought bite #2 http://i.imgur.com/HnAZ7SS.png
Sold bite #2 http://i.imgur.com/nvKcNy2.png (less than 3 hours, delayed because I was busy)
Before you mention me quickbuying, quickbuyers are not valid proof to back up your claim for a drop to 1 ref flat. What does matter is how quickly I sold these using the classifieds.
I just got another bread bite, putting it up for 1.11 on the classifieds, let's see how quick it sells. http://i.imgur.com/ncjYuyV.png
Also, trade.tf prices it at 1-1.11
This is getting ridiculous. At this point you're not even considering my proof. Furthermore, you are insistent that your TWO sales trumps my proof. Three, if you get lucky. You're clearly not listening to what I'm saying, therefore I have no need to do the same to you.
I am in fact considering your proof, just not for 1 ref flat. Again, a range 1-1.22 would be better.
Remember that bread bite? Sold it in half an hour (with no bumps) for 1.11. Maybe you should reconsider calling me lucky.
http://i.imgur.com/cnpLv4R.png
"Your proof for 1 ref has been less than ideal, 1.11 very lacking and inaccurate, 1.22 poorly."
You yourself proved that 1 ref sells and 1.11-1.22 does not. You may have two instances in which you like to believe otherwise, but the substantial amount of proof for 1 ref and disproving 1.11-1.33 trumps it.
You aren't considering his proof here. Downvote. You have no idea what you're saying.
What do you mean I'm not considering his proof? I am noting it, however, I have more proof on my end to justify the drop. There is more proof to justify a drop to 1 ref. My proof shows that 1.11-1.33 ref isn't an easy sell. 1 ref, however, which has proven to be a non-quicksale price, is in fact an easy sale.
Also, I find that last bit of your comment, ever so slightly rude.
You just seem like it. You are only staying in your little bubble. You aren't considering his part of this. Unbiased, cares has supplied enough counterproof for me to downvote. I've dealt with bread weapons before. I've sold em for high end before, and I'm sure others have. It's not that hard as you think. I sold a beauty mark for an archimedes once for example.
So with my personal experience, and the fact that your argument has failed to stand up in my opinion, I'm going to have to downvote.
1. Unless you sold the Beauty Mark during the "Bread Hype" I find that claim hard to believe
2. One High Ball trade does not determine the price of an item, just like one quicksell does not.
3. He's provided TWO links, maybe three. And yet you believe that is enough to trump my 10 links, two of which have already sold, in addition to the proof I have given disproving that 1.11-1.33 sells?
If you want to downvote, go right ahead, but I would advise against it.
First, it was not during the bread hype. It was about a week ago. And I knew you would call BS. But hey, my experience.
Second, I know a highball doesn't. It was an example.
Third, cares already has trumped your links. There is no counter argument at this point. Lol.
"cares has already trumped my link"
With THREE links?
You're not even listening to me at this point. Therefore I feel no obligation to do the same to you. Not only are you ignoring my proof, you seem adamant that three links is > 10 links.
Downvote, be my guest, you obviously weren't going to change your opinion the moment you started this "conversation."
The fact that your two links have sold compared to the dozens of unsolds at 1.33 can really only indicate it's a quicksell or lowball at this point. As I also proved ~45 minutes ago, your proof to deny the range is lacking in quality.
Take one more look at the classifieds is my recommendation.
You are aware that my proof does not consist solely on 1 ref sellers and 1.33 unsolds, yes? I only bring them up because you insist that three links is more than enough to show that that doesn't sell.
Here's some more proof showing that 1.22 doesn't sell. I did in fact take a look at classifieds. Thank you! Without your help, I wouldn't have been able to find more proof showing that 1.22 does not sell very easily. See the 2 days, and 5 days unsold for reference.
http://imgur.com/FsxPvWU
Poorly bumped trades are bad proof. You used 2/5 day unbumped trades as proof there.
So your only classified proof for 1.22 not being sold is two most likely never bumped listings and a super young (or well bumped) one. Good job.
fyi all the other listings for bread bite are 1.33 or more. There are only 3 listings for 1.22
Yet they are still shown in classifieds where everyone can see.
I am not using the proof to help a price go through, I'm using it to show that an item still doesn't sell for that price.
http://imgur.com/P6btwOh sold for 1.33 in a few hours after posting.
One more classified seller
http://imgur.com/EOT50UV
So. you are lowing the price of an item that you can't craft anymore!?
Yeah, proof shows that sales for this item lean more so towards the 1 ref side
Two more classified sellers at 1 ref, it is safe to assume the other seller posted from a day ago sold
http://imgur.com/oz0qNy6
One of the sellers sold in the time it took for me to post that.
Item history
http://backpack.tf/item/2711925235
N'ther seller
http://imgur.com/4o5X8o4
I bought one for 1 ref in an hour. Upvote.
I sold one for a painted Wilson Weave (3 ref) and 1 ref pure 2 days ago:
http://i.imgur.com/HWqV4S3.png
So yeah.
One highballer does not determine the price of a suggestion nor disprove it. A guy in this thread bought one for .66 ref. Does that mean the price/suggestion should have been .66 ref? No, it does not. There will always be outliers in the data. Those are to be ignored.
That happens to be me as well. I bought ~5+ at 0.55-0.66.
But that will be ignored, of course. Lowballers aren't valid proof. An outlier like that isn't really proof either, but maybe you should consider it.
I sold that one via classifieds as well, no trade servers involved.
cares made a good amount of points plus alot o fpeople ive seen can easily sell for more then a ref on trade servers (i dont have proof of this however so decide for yourself) but all in all downvote from me sorry man :/