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Any strange item should not have a price equivalent to its regular version. Despite the popularity of a weapon, the fact that it tracks kills requires it to have a higher price than a weapon that does not. It's like having a robot that cooks priced the exact same as one that cooks AND cleans.

No strange should be priced the same as its regular version. (All stranges are worth more than a single scrap.)

    You do realize that's not evidence to support you at all, right?

      I'm well aware of this, but there is evidence that stranges have more features than their regular counterparts, right?

      The normal Back Scratcher is not worth 1 scrap. It is worth one weapon, but as with all clean weapons, they are sold at 1 scrap.

        I see what you're saying, but it's not applicable to this situation, since this current price dictates that regulars and stranges must be SOLD for the same price. That doesn't make sense relative to the availability of stranges vs. their regular counterparts(http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/), nor does it make sense for the benefits it provides to the player.

        Since you seem to believe Stranges provide this non-existant benefit, and that it should be raise because you can see how many idiots you killed, here is counterproof.


        ALL of these are new.

        If you think it shouldn't be the same price of its regular version, then why are these people selling them like that?

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10126254 bp.tf prices

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10103725 mass seller

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10132484 "why should he sell for a scrap" based on your flawed logic

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9571511 3 weeks

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10053429 3 days

        Fortunately for you, outpost went down on me. All on the first page by the way.

          They're all selling at a reduced price of 1 scrap because they rely on this Spreadsheet which is currently outdated. Hence Oasis's comment of: "Prices are those of backpack.tf" leading him to sell at 1 scrap.

          See: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10126254

            Well DUH.

            Using counterproof to justify a ridiculous claim (that in no way, supports your suggestion) makes me question what kind of logic you have.

        need evidence, not just logic, sorry man

          I understand that idea of providing evidence, but you just said we should not let LOGIC dictate market prices. That's about the worst thing any economy could do.

            your logic might be right, you just need to provide evidence to prove that strange backscratchers are being sold for 0.11 - 0.22

              That's not the point here. The point is that there are fewer Strange Back scratchers than there are uniques (see http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/), meaning they dictate a higher value. Moreover, stranges provide more benefits to the player, which means their price on this spreadsheet is currently inaccurate relative to their usefulness to the player.

                What do Stranges do? Its not like it gives you 100% crits when you get Hale's Own. They are just an aesthetic feature to the game.

                  By that logic, hats should all be the same price, "they're just pixels". You and I both know stranges provide more desirability to the player than a regular version. Nice try, though!

                    Nice try? What did you think I was trying to do?

                    It's just another option to have as a game. No matter how much stuff VALVe puts into it, it is still a first person shooter.

                    Besides, the only advantage to having a million kills is to show off your MLG swag.

              That doesn't mean you're right. As unfortunate as it is, the tf2 economy is not dictated by logic. No economy is.

                Economies are not ruled by logic; they are ruled by supply and demand.

                  "see http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/" = Supply. I think the current price is a little too focused on the demand aspect of this item and doesn't properly account for the supply side of things. Especially not relative to unique versions.

              it doesnt have a price equivalent to its regular version. that version is 0.05 ref. this is 0.11 ref

                See my reply to Sugoi:

                I see what you're saying, but it's not applicable to this situation, since this current price dictates that regulars and stranges must be SOLD for the same price. That doesn't make sense relative to the availability of stranges vs. their regular counterparts(http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/), nor does it make sense for the benefits it provides to the player.

                Well I do agree with your point, but proof around here is the currency.

                  Even though I agree with your opinion, you have to supply proof if you want your suggestion accepted.

                    But it is common as the normal weapon

                      I think there's ample proof that stranges are less common than unique weps. See http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/ for details.

                        Alright, you got me. However, the amount of strange back scratchers is plentiful, just like how the number of strange homewreckers is massive.

                      Are you buying them for 2 scraps? Is anyone buying them for 2 scraps?

                        That's only half of the question. By asking if someone's buying for that price, you completely ignore the possibility of selling at that price. A strange shouldn't be sold at the same price as it's regular counterpart, since there are both fewer stranges than uniques (http://tf2stats.net/item/Back-Scratcher/326/) and stranges provide more benefits to the player.

                          The back scratcher is priced as a wep, the strange back scratcher is priced at two weps, which is not the same price, it's double the price.


                          Again, can you find anyone buying them for 2 scraps? It's the only thing that is going to help this suggestion pass, if it's accurate at all.


                          (I honestly haven't checked; it's quite possible they're selling at 2 scraps, although I have a good feeling I could buy this thing in less than 5 mins for a scrap)

                        Strange Equalizer

                        Strange Homewrecker

                        Strange Pain Train

                        Strange Wrap Assasin

                        Strange Shovel

                        you should update those too, based on your logic.

                          That was my plan, thanks for compiling a list for me!

                            I forgot that sarcasm didn't work on the internet.

                            Pity for you if you actually took me seriously.

                          Here's proof of one sold for 2 scrap, I hope this helps http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9580199

                            i fail at buying for 0.11, but that´s all i can share here.

                              I'll gladly sell you mine for 0.22, OP. Add me.

                                http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/326/11/0 - three unsold at 1 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9571511 - unsold 1 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10037712 - unsold 1 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10123290 - unsold bp.tf price (1 scrap)

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9898936 - unsold 1 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10070844 - unsold 2 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9925128 - unsold 2 scrap

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10103725 - seven unsold at 1 scrap


                                Too easy to find for a scrap, .22 shouldn't be in the range just yet.